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Trump’s tax plan would raise deficit $12 trillion: analysis
nypost.com ^ | September 30, 2015 | Yaron Steinbuch

Posted on 09/30/2015 12:13:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Berlin_Freeper

Tax cuts

Increased jobs

Increased tax revenue

Reduction in deficit spending

Pay down the debt

We have 40 million plus out of work today. I haven’t looked up the numbers recently, but that’s about 25% of the workforce.

Imagine tax revenue going up by 33%.

That fixes the deficit, the infrastructure, Social Security, Medicare, and the Military. Go after the waste in Welfare, pay down the debt.

At the same time, start a new program to take Social Security and Medicare out of the government’s hands.

Unfunded mandates could be a think of the past in about 30 years.

Some of the old system would straggle on, but we could have people retiring under a new SS plan in about 30 years if we got to work and implemented a plan. They may opt to work until a 40 year career, but it would be by choice.

A husband and wife under a new retirement plan that replaced SS, could retire in real comfort after 30-40 years and be very well off.


21 posted on 09/30/2015 1:00:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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s/b "Current Tax Structure Will Cost Taxpayers Trillions of Dollars"


22 posted on 09/30/2015 1:14:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This is a static analysis that presupposes no increased economic activity by virtue of higher capital formation through savings, and elevated consumer spending. There is simply no way for economic benefit not to accrue to the private sector with a tax cut of this size and scope.

The “cost” to the treasury does not take into account the huge difference in efficiency between private sector resource allocation, and government inefficiencies in this regard. The money stays where it is most productive. Period.

Increased economic activity will yield higher revenues. Always has, always will. Tax plan needs to be coupled with spending decreases, or we’ll have what we had during the post Bush tax cut economic boom-the size of government grew by nearly a third.

So, good tax plan, but harmful if not combined with spending cuts and reduced regulation.


23 posted on 09/30/2015 1:21:56 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I call chicken manure!
I don’t know jack about economics, but I know these are the same people who take *years* to figure out that Obamacare won’t be such a bad thing.
How in the name of sanity can they nitpick Trump’s tax plan in a couple of days?
They can’t.
They aren’t competent enough to add 2+2 and get an answer of 4!


24 posted on 09/30/2015 1:23:42 AM PDT by oldvirginian (I question all things political each day and reach the same conclusion. I stand with Ted Cruz!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Voodoo economics.


25 posted on 09/30/2015 1:24:01 AM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
What a shock the pundits don't like the tax plan. Do the pundits have a solution? No that's why they are pundits. They run a spreadsheet and figure out a negative balance and pronounce: Won't Work.

OK so it's not that complicated. We currently have an 18 trillion deficit. Forbes reports there were 85 million tax returns in 2010 that paid taxes. Now that includes married people filing jointly and they estimate that taking that into account means there are probably 122 million people who pay taxes. So doing the math to cover the 18 trillion we each owe:

$147,541.00

To cover their estimate of Trump's 1.2 trillion per year will add:

$9836.00 per year.

So note to pundits I'm willing to risk the extra 10 grand per year to see if Trump can grow the economy and cut the budget. Besides I don't have the 150 grand anyway so what's another 80k over a Trump 8 year presidency?

26 posted on 09/30/2015 1:29:58 AM PDT by stig
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To: edpc

They got some serious spending cuts to make. Let’s see, eliminate Departments of Energy, Education, Labor, Commerce, HHS, HUD, etc.

Not spending is a spending cut. Doing the above cuts $2 trillion. Eliminate DeathCare and welfare for illegals another $5 trillion. Etc., etc., etc.


27 posted on 09/30/2015 1:35:28 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NTHockey

Send the illegals home. Every illegal household deported or prevented from coming to the USA saves us $700,000. Take that times a few million and it adds up to some serious money.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/24/report-every-deported-illegal-household-saves-taxpayers-more-than-700000/


28 posted on 09/30/2015 1:42:56 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What they are leaving out is I am sure Trummp plans on cutting some things from the budget as well...............


29 posted on 09/30/2015 2:05:21 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: goldstategop
We can’t let the government spend less money.

For any group of "We" that believe the above statement is something that literally should be done, I ask how will you collectively stop the government from spending less money?

There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand. --Proverbs 19:21

There are many plans in a person's mind, but it is the counsel of the LORD which will stand. --Proverbs 19:21

30 posted on 09/30/2015 2:21:03 AM PDT by SeargentPrestonoftheYukon ("All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable...")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Well, Bernie’s plan is reported to cost us $18 trillion and the rest of the pack aren’t smart or honest enough to publish a plan


31 posted on 09/30/2015 2:25:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: exnavy

So, I suppose you will argue that the policies of the Bush and Obama administrations has done nothing to cause the conditions in that the workforce rating is at its lowest since at least the Great Depression?

Governments set the conditions for or against the ability of business to be able to hire more people. Just take a look at Obamacare. Do we need to go and look at the figures of how many have been laid off or had their hours cut just to meet the government mandates on business to operate and try to make a profit within them?


32 posted on 09/30/2015 3:08:47 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Berlin_Freeper
It assumes 11% income growth total over 10 years? Did I read that right?
33 posted on 09/30/2015 3:12:45 AM PDT by tinyowl (penguin in transition and C. Edmond Wright thinks I am an idiot and a Trump sycophant)
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To: blueyon
What they are leaving out is I am sure Trummp plans on cutting some things from the budget as well...............

They left it out but so did Trump.

34 posted on 09/30/2015 3:35:14 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Berlin_Freeper

In order for this to be true, and all other things being equal, it would mean that Trumps tax plan will result in collecting only about 40% of what the government collects now. I don’t think Trumps plan would be revenue neutral by any stretch of the imagination but I don’t see it being as bad as what is claimed.


35 posted on 09/30/2015 3:40:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Static Analyses and assumptions that spending will increase at the same accelerating rate while decreased taxes will not increase economic activity. The same sort of government analysis shows that doubling the tax rate will double revenue..


36 posted on 09/30/2015 3:51:04 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: exnavy
-- The bad news is, government does not create jobs --

It creates jobs alright (makework, do-nothing, harangue the public type jobs), but it doesn't create wealth

37 posted on 09/30/2015 3:57:20 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

one thing i haven’t heard mentioned about his tax plan is how much will be cut out of the irs budget due to its simplistic nature


38 posted on 09/30/2015 4:03:06 AM PDT by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: Cboldt

When you have no plan at all, attack the guy that HAS a plan, that way the voters take their eye off you, with no plan.

There are some fairly good republican candidates right now and many will be gone in the coming few months. My guess, Trump will still be on the list as he begins to come forward with more WORKABLE ideas.

Before we hang the guy in the square, best listen to what he has to say, then if you have run out of his ideas to attack, then hang him, you’er dead set on that idea anyway. Your fear that he may just be RIGHT, shows.


39 posted on 09/30/2015 4:08:55 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The Tax Foundation found that Trump’s changes to the individual tax code would reduce net revenues by about $10.14 trillion

"Mr. Trump’s plan would cut taxes by $11.98 trillion over the next decade on a static basis. " direct quote from the Tax Foundation home page.

This left wing group, scores using static methods, i.e. nothing changes.

We all know that changing the tax code {or any law} will change behavior, so static scoring is all BS.

40 posted on 09/30/2015 4:12:16 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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