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Keystone off the table, but back East, pipeline fight builds
Fuel Fix ^ | November 9, 2015 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/09/2015 9:55:14 AM PST by thackney

They've shooed pipeline surveyors from their pastures, made anti-pipeline signs for a protest at the county courthouse and at appearances by the Virginia governor. They've also kept up pressure on local officials.

As the leader in this multigenerational band of family activists, Carolyn Reilly has found the experience exhilarating and bruising.

"There are days when I am in tears in frustration and exhaustion," she said. "Then there are days when I'm fired up and ready to fight."

From New England to North Carolina, scattered insurgencies have formed in opposition to a spider web of pipelines up and down the Eastern Seaboard as the nation's energy industry seeks to move pent-up natural gas supplies.

Behind the pipeline boom: vast deposits of natural gas being drilled in West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio and ready for shipment to U.S. and international markets.

"Essentially, the takeaway is they're re-plumbing the whole United States," said Timothy R. Carr, a West Virginia University geologist.

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: energy; naturalgas; pipeline

1 posted on 11/09/2015 9:55:14 AM PST by thackney
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2 posted on 11/09/2015 9:58:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Nimbys will always be with us, as well as bananas.
These are the kind of oikophobes who will vote
a town dry, and then move.


3 posted on 11/09/2015 10:02:47 AM PST by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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LOL! I know right? Some people are totally clueless when it comes to the amount of infrastructure that already exists. So, my idea is to cut off any natural gas or fuel oil to those that so oppose these things. Wood stoves? Sorry, epa rules.


4 posted on 11/09/2015 10:02:50 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Carr, the West Virginia geologist, said the current energy options are imported oil, natural gas or coal, with wind and solar still decades away from filling the gap.

"Those are your choices," he said. "Or maybe you don't want your lights turned on."

5 posted on 11/09/2015 10:05:08 AM PST by CedarDave (Hillary for incarceration not inauguration)
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To: sparklite2

with regard to the yankees, let them freeze in the dark


6 posted on 11/09/2015 10:05:55 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: sparklite2

They figure that they can watch TV by candle light.


7 posted on 11/09/2015 10:06:16 AM PST by Redleg Duke (The Federal Government is nothing but a welfare program with a dress code!)
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TV by candlelight. I like that.


8 posted on 11/09/2015 10:07:15 AM PST by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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I am still waiting for all of these people to bury their cars. Until they do I cant hear them...nana nana nana!


9 posted on 11/09/2015 10:08:07 AM PST by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: CedarDave

“Carr, the West Virginia geologist, said the current energy options are imported oil, natural gas or coal, with wind and solar still decades away from filling the gap.

“Those are your choices,” he said. “Or maybe you don’t want your lights turned on.””

Well, the very best way to turn the lights on is by electricity supplied by nuclear power.


10 posted on 11/09/2015 10:12:08 AM PST by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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“Energy is indeed important and energy is important in creating new jobs. I get that,” said Lewis Freeman, a spokesman for the alliance. “But that does not mean the value of energy to our economy trumps all other values. I think what’s at stake here is a conflict of values.”

This is indeed the crux of the matter. Pipelines and natural gas are a relatively clean and cost effective source of energy. Of course we could cut the flow and wear sweaters (The Jimmy Carter solution) and we could also cut immigration if we want to stop using energy. Does the protest movement extend to this idea?

But the truth is that if we really want to claim the high ground in the energy climate game, we need to move to an all electrical society where electricity is generated by hydraulic and nuclear forces. And even when this is done, we will probably use some fuel in fossil form -- think planes and trucks?

Of course the climate model game should also be validated before this action becomes mandatory. But we could start the process and use natural gas as the bridging energy (and supplement with coal as we learn to scrub the emissions from coal plants. All of this is coming down the road.

In the meantime, it is cold in the winter, and a little natural gas heater is awfully nice on a cold night.

11 posted on 11/09/2015 10:12:28 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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“There are days when I am in tears in frustration and exhaustion,”

Then freeze in the dark,,, broke, with no pipeline check in the mail.


12 posted on 11/09/2015 10:12:51 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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Let ‘em FREEZE..............................


13 posted on 11/09/2015 10:13:03 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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There are gas lines up and down every street in America.


14 posted on 11/09/2015 10:16:40 AM PST by marron
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“There are days when I am in tears in frustration and exhaustion,”

The poor snowflake!

15 posted on 11/09/2015 10:17:45 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: marron

No, not in many locations.

Older neighborhoods put in before Nat Gas was offered in the area often go decades without Natural Gas being offered. It can be hard to get enough folks to switch at one time to justify the cost.


16 posted on 11/09/2015 10:19:25 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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John D. Rockefeller first one who told the railroads to take a hike to transport oil.

I wonder who has a friend in the railroad business today?

17 posted on 11/09/2015 11:20:18 AM PST by scooby321
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This pipeline and the others referenced are transporting Natural Gas.

Keystone XL was only mentioned to grab headline attention.


18 posted on 11/09/2015 11:47:48 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: scooby321

Ummmm.... Does the name Warren Buffet sound familiar


19 posted on 11/09/2015 11:48:30 AM PST by technically right
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