Donald Trump: I'd consider shutting down mosques

WND ^ | 11/15/2015

[al baby]

This is on purpose promising things he cant do so he can say he has had political experience

[DJ MacWoW]

There is no "maybe" about it.

Islam is not compatible with the Constitution. Islam is a form of government claoked in religious terms. YES. It most certainly IS Constitutional.

[JoSixChip]

Yes they can be shut down, and they will be shut down one way, or another. They have to be.

I want desperately to agree with you. But everything that I know about America and our Constitutional Republic tells me it is wrong to just take a big hammer and squash every mosque in America. There have been mosque in America sense it's inception. Do we take those out as well, and what about Mormons or Scientology?

[JRandomFreeper]

What happened to the Japanese Americans during WWII?

/johnny

[JoSixChip]

You might want to review the exemptions.

I don't quite see what exemptions are applicable here, could you point me to what you are referencing?

[DJ MacWoW]

There have been mosque in America sense it's inception.

Obama? Is that you?

The FIRST mosque built in America was in 1934!

[DJ MacWoW]

Why don’t you look it up? It just became obvious in Post 43 that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

[Bullish]

Presidents dont have the authority to shut down houses of worship.

Tell that to the Branch Davidians. Clinton didn't just shut them down, he burned them down along with all the children... Just sayin'

[nathanbedford]

There are some observations which should be made:

Generally speaking, practicing religion does not render legal what is otherwise illegal. That is, polygamy is not transformed into legal marriage just because one is a Mormon.

When we take sides in issues such as church vs. state we have to be very careful of unintended consequences. That is, if we permit the illegal to be legal because of religious beliefs, we have to worry that that principle will be applied not just in behalf of the Little Sisters of the Poor, but on behalf of sharia.

It is one thing to make adjustments admitting the practices of benign eleemosynary institutions like The Little Sisters of the Poor and quite another to accommodate Islam. There just is. Unfortunately, our Constitution simply does not recognize that street reality. Our legal system is not set up to accommodate that raw reality.

That said, it might be possible to infiltrate mosques and bring criminal and civil RICO actions against individual mosques or groups of mosques based on the conspiracy prohibitions outlawed in those statutes. Certainly, mosques must be infiltrated with or without RICO.

All of this generally points up the imperative need to prevent Muslims from entry into the United States. Their culture, which is based on a worldview that is essentially medieval in its epistemology, is so alien that it is cannot be accommodated by our Constitution or our laws and, paradoxically, it cannot be singled out for needed protective measures because of our Constitution and our laws. The only solution consistent with the Constitution is total exclusion.

[JoSixChip]

What happened to the Japanese Americans during WWII?

That was a declared war. Whatever, clearly I have lost here.

[EveningStar]

He didn’t say he would shut them down. He says it need to be looked at, studied and if necessary, shut down.

Agreed. Don't base everything on headlines. He was talking about shutting down radical enemy mosques. However, I don't think that can be done in the USA. The best we can do here is to expose such mosques publicly and show the American people who our enemies are.

[JoSixChip]

Mosques have been here since the colonial era. A mosque, or masjid, is literally any place where Muslims make salat, the prayer performed in the direction of Mecca; it needn’t be a building. One of the first mosques in North American history was on Kent Island, Md.: Between 1731 and 1733, African American Muslim slave and Islamic scholar Job Ben Solomon, a cattle driver, would regularly steal away to the woods there for his prayers — in spite of a white boy who threw dirt on him as he made his prostrations.

I hate to source the compost, but it is all I could find on short notice:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/26/AR2010082605510.html

[CrosscutSaw]

Freedom of religion doesn’t extend to murderous cults nor totalitarian political systems that masquerade as religion. Islam is not a legitimate religion. Islam must be banished from the USA.

[rockinqsranch]

“...../and what about Mormons or Scientology?

Mormons, and Scientology are not foreign invaders. They may be “religious” denominations some might disagree with their perspectives. I have no interest in nitpicking their perspectives, so don’t intend to go there, but they aren’t militant organizations from, and funded by foreign lands seeking the overthrow of our Nation.

[DJ MacWoW]

Actually the first mosque was in 1929. It was torn down. And, yes, it needs to be a building.

Mother Mosque of America was built in 1934 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

Being a muslim apologist on FR is a dangerous thing to be.........

[CrosscutSaw]

Christian churches are protected by the Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion. Islam is not a legitimate religion.

[JoSixChip]

Islam is not a legitimate religion.

I'll take your word for that. I'm not qualified to make that determination. Although I do agree with other posters that islam is not comparable with America, from what I know. I don't really see how it is much different then liberalism. You don't think the liberals would like to kill all conservatives? And yet we have to tolerate them.

[rockinqsranch]

Fast forward to the here, and now. We have a problem that requires attention, and the facts are the Mosques today are being built, funded in our country by an Islamic government, a tyrannical Islamic Theocracy WITH INTENT to subjugate our nation to its will. Nothing less than an act of war.

Do we shut down their outposts, their mosques now, or try to later when they have killed off half, or better of our population?

Personally I think the constitution has an answer for us that will win the day, but we have to have the correct frame of mind to administer the appropriate law(s), and it cannot be a defeatist frame of mind, nor a Democrat frame of mind either.

Thanks for your input. Have a great evening.

[FourPeas]

Where do you find that spelled out in the Constitution?

[DJ MacWoW]

We're a Christian nation, not a muslim one. The Mayflower Compact says why they came here and it wasn't for Allah.

Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia

America is not a Theocracy as islam is. The First Amendment says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

That precludes islam.