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Ted Cruz Sees a Donald Trump Showdown Looming
The Texas Tribune ^ | Dec. 23, 2015 | Patrick Svitek

Posted on 12/23/2015 5:36:01 PM PST by presidio9

No, Ted Cruz still will not attack Donald Trump. But even as he continues to keep things friendly with the billionaire, the U.S senator from Texas is envisioning a showdown with him for the Republican presidential nomination.

Campaigning Tuesday in Tennessee and Arkansas, Cruz repeatedly entertained the idea that he and Trump will be the last men standing to carry their party's banner in the general election. As Cruz has risen in the polls, especially in Iowa, Trump has speculated more than once that the GOP contest for the White House is becoming a "two-man race" between the two closest allies in the field.

"Well, Donald a couple of days ago said he could see it coming down to the two of us, and I think that's entirely possible," Cruz told reporters before a rally Wednesday evening in North Little Rock. "If you look at where the polling numbers are, it more and more seems to be headed in that direction."

As Cruz readies for the final month before the first nominating contests begin, he appears to no longer view the race as culminating in a head-to-head between a conservative candidate like himself and an establishment hopeful. Until recently, Cruz seemed to be making that foil his Senate colleague Marco Rubio, who has been hammering Cruz for weeks on immigration and national security.

Once welcoming of a potential face-off with Rubio, Cruz has increasingly cast doubts on the Florida senator's long-term viability in the race. Cruz has suggested Rubio does not have a path to victory in any of the first four early voting states, where Cruz has implied Rubio's outreach has been halfhearted and designed to avoid tough questions from Republican primary voters.

Rubio's campaign has slung the same kind of criticism at Cruz, claiming Rubio is the only one in the GOP field "competing everywhere" and suggesting Cruz is writing off New Hampshire.

Cruz now appears to be looking past Rubio to Trump, the months-long frontrunner with whom the Texas senator has studiously avoided going to battle. A senior Cruz campaign official, granted anonymity to discuss internal thinking, called Trump a "formidable opponent" when asked Tuesday about the prospect of a two-man race. The primary coming down to Cruz and Trump, the official said, is the "most rational conclusion" given where things currently stand in the race.

The theory received another measure of credibility Tuesday with the release of a Quinnipiac University poll showing Cruz pulling within 4 percentage points of Trump nationally. Another survey put out a day later by CNN, however, found the gap between the two to be much wider — 21 points.

In either case, Cruz and Trump are consistently drawing support in early state and national polling that dwarfs most of the rest of the GOP field. It's a point that has not been lost on Cruz as he rethinks the architecture of the race.

"Right now the Washington establishment is panicking," Cruz said in an interview on Fox News on Monday. "They're confused their golden children are not succeeding in the polls."

The idea of a Cruz-Trump matchup does not just scramble the Texas senator's thinking that the primary would come down to a conservative and a moderate. It's also an acknowledgment that Trump's staying power is unique from that of other candidates who have topped the polls.

At one point earlier this month, Cruz seemed to raise the possibility that the momentum behind Carson and Trump was slowing. That only proved true for Carson, whose frontrunner status has slipped away as national security has come to the forefront of the race following terrorist attacks in Paris and California.

"I think both of them, their campaigns have a natural arc, and with both of them, I think gravity is pulling them down. We've seen that. Carson is further in that descent," Cruz was recorded as saying at a fundraiser in New York — remarks that led to a brief period of turmoil in the otherwise chummy relationship between Cruz and Trump.

On Tuesday morning, Cruz continued to maintain his anti-aggression pact with Trump. Speaking with reporters in Knoxville, Tenn., he said he will not "play political pundit" when asked about Trump's statement the day earlier that President Barack Obama "schlonged" Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary.

For months, Cruz's allies and supporters have watched Trump's campaign with mixed feelings. Some agree with Cruz's view that Trump's candidacy has helped Cruz by making the race about which hopeful has "stood up to Washington." Others have been more open about their suspicions of Trump, whom they say may have strong anti-establishment appeal but no record to back it up like Cruz does.

"Donald Trump’s a high-risk candidate," U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama, who has endorsed Cruz, said in an interview Friday. "He may be great, he may not. No one has any way of knowing... He's never been in the fight before."

That argument — that Trump would be a risky bet for Republican primary voters fed up with Washington — is not unheard of on the campaign trail. It was a common thread in recent days as Cruz paid visits to the group of mostly southern states set to vote March 1 in what is being called the "SEC primary."

"I think Trump just blows a lot of hot air," said David Kimbrough, a police officer who came to see Cruz on Sunday near Birmingham, Ala. "Cruz, to me, seems more dependable and will back what he says. He's more of an honest candidate than Trump is."

In recent weeks, though, it is Rubio who has placed himself more in conflict with Cruz than Trump has. The Florida senator and his campaign have aggressively sought to show he and Cruz have similar positions on immigration, which Cruz has dismissed as an attempt to muddy the waters.

The sustained offensive by Rubio has put Cruz on the defensive more so than at any point since he launched his bid for the White House. But Cruz's campaign believes Rubio is only digging himself a deeper hole by putting front and center his involvement in the 2013 immigration reform bill that is reviled by many GOP primary voters.

"If your opponent doesn't score a goal, you can't lose, and he hasn't scored a goal," the senior Cruz campaign official said of Rubio's offensive.

In fact, Cruz's campaign believes Rubio has only helped Cruz by accelerating the sharpening of their contrasts on the issues — and rallying prominent conservative figures to Cruz's side in the process. "It's been great for us" in that regard, the senior Cruz campaign official said.

Rubio's campaign maintained Wednesday that Cruz still is not being forthcoming on a range of issues that go beyond immigration.

"Everybody knows Marco's positions," Rubio spokesman Alex Conant said in a statement. "We still don't know Sen. Cruz's position because he keeps changing and saying different things. Sen. Cruz's inconsistencies on immigration, trade and security are a problem that he still has not addressed."

Cruz's remarks on a possible Trump faceoff came on the second-to-last day of a weeklong swing through eight mostly southern states. He is scheduled to wrap up the tour Wednesday with two rallies in Oklahoma, one in the morning in Tulsa then the other in the afternoon in Oklahoma City.

Cruz is taking a few days off for Christmas but plans to be back on the campaign trail by the start of next week, when he heads to Cisco, Texas — the home of the top donors to his presidential effort — for a meeting with evangelical leaders, a fundraiser and a rally. In January, his schedule is expected to center on Iowa with less than a month until the caucuses, but also include trips to New Hampshire and South Carolina.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; elections; immigration; ineligible; trump; trumpwasright
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1 posted on 12/23/2015 5:36:01 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

This is like a primary between U.S. and Russia.


2 posted on 12/23/2015 5:41:08 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: presidio9

Trump Cruz would be a winning ticket.


3 posted on 12/23/2015 5:41:41 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: presidio9
It won't last long.

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4 posted on 12/23/2015 5:43:54 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: riverrunner

I think so. We’ll see if they can keep it classy. Hopefully they will do better than their promoters on this site.


5 posted on 12/23/2015 5:44:06 PM PST by refreshed
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To: riverrunner

I hope Trump picks Cruz as his VP. Trump is likely to one term it given his age.

Cruz without Trump’s money would get starved by the GOPe. They’d leave him hung out to dry.


6 posted on 12/23/2015 5:47:44 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: presidio9

I guess we’ll see who gets schlonged.


7 posted on 12/23/2015 5:48:23 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: presidio9

Yes, they will battle over the moderates and whichever wins them over will be the nominee.

Trump has the upper hand with moderates now but Cruz is acceptable to them. He just needs to show them that.


8 posted on 12/23/2015 5:50:56 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

Trump does not need to go to war with Cruz. He is too far ahead. Cruz may need to go to war with Trump and I don’t think that will work out well for him.

My personal belief at this point is that Cruz is hoping for VP.


9 posted on 12/23/2015 5:52:50 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: presidio9

I don’t think either one of these two have anything to gain by attacking each other. By now, people are mostly solid in who they support.

They should just keep smacking down the ankle biter GOPe goofballs and work on gaining support from those who haven’t made up their minds.


10 posted on 12/23/2015 5:54:56 PM PST by dforest
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To: presidio9

Cruz has support that is narrow but deep. Trump has support that is wide but shallow. Trump has more potential for growth.


11 posted on 12/23/2015 5:56:03 PM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I can’t see Cruz just conceding.
If he gets the moderates he will win the nomination.
If he does well with them but fails he will still be in a stronger position to negotiate.
It’s a win-win.


12 posted on 12/23/2015 5:56:57 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Trump does not need to go to war with Cruz. He is too far ahead. Cruz may need to go to war with Trump and I don’t think that will work out well for him.

Yep, but this is just The Texas Tribune trying to stir up something that is not really there.

Thy have folks there that make Step-on-all-of-us seem normal.

My personal belief at this point is that Cruz is hoping for VP.

Trump does a one and done.

Then throws all his support to Cruz for two more terms.

That will give American Citizens time to groom a crop of real conservatives by primarying out all the GOPEs build the southern border wall, recover from the Unaffordable Dont Care Act, etc.

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13 posted on 12/23/2015 6:03:24 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TigerClaws; All

Yes and Yes. Few people consider Trump’s age as the reason for one term. And don’t think about the financial aspects either. If Trump does not win the primary, he’ll return to the private sector and play golf. Then all will be up to Cruz to take the gold ring. Quite frankly, I think we need Trump in the corner office to clean up the mess in Washington, the country, and the rest.


14 posted on 12/23/2015 6:06:11 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore)
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To: refreshed
"We'll see if they can keep it classy."

The word, "classy" is unknown to Trump.

15 posted on 12/23/2015 6:06:20 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: mrsmith

Cruz is a conservative. He is not getting the moderates Trump is. That is why Cruz is only polling at 11%-18% max. He’s not going to get the moderates because they think he is too conservative. That’s why Cruz will likely win Iowa and not one other primary.


16 posted on 12/23/2015 6:08:21 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: mrsmith

Cruz is a conservative. He is not getting the moderates Trump is. That is why Cruz is only polling at 11%-18% max. He’s not going to get the moderates because they think he is too conservative. That’s why Cruz will likely win Iowa and not one other primary.


17 posted on 12/23/2015 6:08:21 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Veep would work for Ted. He’s a young guy and in 4 years he’ll be really prime for the corner office when Trump packs up to play building skyscrapers and golf courses.


18 posted on 12/23/2015 6:09:20 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore)
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To: Cobra64

Well Ted is 45 so 8 years as VP and he’s a shoe in for prez at age 53. Its all good.


19 posted on 12/23/2015 6:12:10 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Doubly true...
But Cruz has not yet appealed to moderate voters to support him. He may have success doing so.
Moderates have seen 10 years of ‘progressivism’ fail and are open to considering conservative views.
Cruz may succeed in persuading them.
We’ll know in just a few months.


20 posted on 12/23/2015 6:14:42 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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