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Cruz: Trump has jumped the shark for questioning my natural born citizenship
Twitter ^ | 1/5/16 | Ted Cruz

Posted on 01/05/2016 3:14:56 PM PST by M. Thatcher

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To: gwgn02

“Agreed. Donalds style over substance only gets him so far, he has hit his ceiling... and this shows a thin skinned, very petulant side of his lack of character.”

That’s what you want to believe. In fact, you’d have to be blind not to acknowledge that Trump is a brilliant political chess player, because he’s been three steps ahead on every move he’s made, either towards the other candidates or the press. If he’s bringing up a potential problem with Cruz’s citizenship, it’s because it’s a valid question that’s GOING to be brought into the open sooner or later anyway. By bringing it up, he instantly gets the press talking about it... not only now, but for the next couple of weeks before Iowa.

So what you see as “thin skinned” I see as brilliant strategy.

That said, I don’t like to see things like this happen, because I want Cruz to be Trump’s running mate. If the two of them teamed up, it would be the nail in the coffin of the GOP-e.


61 posted on 01/05/2016 3:51:07 PM PST by Pravious
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To: JewishRighter

Earlier today. He attacked Trump on illegal immigration. I knew the gloves were off and Trump would attack back.


62 posted on 01/05/2016 3:51:29 PM PST by dforest
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To: Responsibility2nd
Cruz is a Dominionist!

AND

63 posted on 01/05/2016 3:51:45 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Cruz is a Dominionist!

AND he lies about his history on immigration :)

64 posted on 01/05/2016 3:52:01 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Bidimus1; TangoLimaSierra
Thanks and yes.. that was my point that too many do not know what the phrase means.

I am glad someone finally explained it in a way I can understand, actually! I've always wondered what the hell it meant. Thanks! In other words, the show had to be pretty desperate in order to have Fonzie jumping on a shark as part of the script.

Right? If so, good, because I had not really understood it before, thinking it was more like jumping the gun. Now I get that it's totally different.

:^)

65 posted on 01/05/2016 3:52:30 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: dforest
Donald John Trump

Born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Jus Soli)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Jus Sanguinis)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

66 posted on 01/05/2016 3:53:22 PM PST by ASA Vet (98C40K3)
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To: dforest

I don’t think Cruz is worried about this at all. If Trump really thought this was an issue, why would he compliment Cruz for months and then bring this up when Cruz is ahead in Iowa? Voters can see through this.


67 posted on 01/05/2016 3:53:28 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: M. Thatcher

Trump is beginning to panic.


68 posted on 01/05/2016 3:54:11 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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69 posted on 01/05/2016 3:55:55 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: CatherineofAragon

could have left the word moron out of your post and kept things civil.A simple answer turns away wrath;but grievous words stir up anger(proverbs chapter 15)


70 posted on 01/05/2016 3:56:47 PM PST by nurse-rn
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To: UCANSEE2
...and he has had a double passport.

I suppose that Trump has seen Cruz's Canadian passport? Like he saw the thousands of Muslims celebrating 9/11 in New Jersey?

71 posted on 01/05/2016 3:57:30 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: M. Thatcher
The reason why Trump rocketed in the polls in 2012 was the simple fact he challenged the marxist muslim kenyan to show a birth certificate, some I.D....... Anything

Obama couldn't, so he released a pathetic forgery and ‘killed’ Obl to get this fact off the front pages.

Trump is not going to wait for the pathetic ‘conservative’ media to bring this up because they WON'T

It's bad enough having a leftist state media covering for a usurper.....quite sobering to have the so called conservative radio talk show hosts carry the same water and use the same talking points as the left.

Cruz & Rubio are NOT Eligible. The left will successfully torpedo either campaign if by some miracle one of the foreigners won the nomination.

Fvck them

Go Trump or GO HOME

72 posted on 01/05/2016 3:58:21 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: gwgn02

Baloney. Friends and groups on FB have been talking about this for weeks by supporters of different candidates.


73 posted on 01/05/2016 3:58:46 PM PST by MamaB (Heb. 13:ump.2)
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To: conservativejoy
Trump is bound to know that courts would expedite a case like this.

The problem is that there will be no grounds to sue until Cruz is in the White House.

74 posted on 01/05/2016 3:59:01 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: PA-RIVER
It’s very easy to see a judge pulling him from the race.

So Trump will sue? On what grounds? A civil suit needs damages that can be corrected. How has Trump been damaged?

75 posted on 01/05/2016 4:00:18 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Finny

I’m confused. So, if one parent is a citizen and one an alien then the child has to physically be born in the US to be a natural citizen. Did I read that correctly?


76 posted on 01/05/2016 4:00:46 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: M. Thatcher

Cruz was born in Canada, mother was a citizen, his father was not, renounced his Canadian citizenship a short time ago, and he wants to claim he is a “natural born” citizen? Not according to the definition of natural born citizen in the Naturalization Act of 1790, the definition of a concept that was locked into the Constitution when ratified.


77 posted on 01/05/2016 4:01:18 PM PST by odawg
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To: editor-surveyor
At no time in his adult life has Cruz had a Canadian passport.

I never said he did.

The real point of this (which is being ignored) is that Trump was saying that it would eventually be brought up (by the opposition) and might cause him to lose the election, regardless of the actual facts and details.

78 posted on 01/05/2016 4:01:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Not true. If Cruz were not eligible to Be President, he would be declared ineligible to run. If Trump really thought that was the case, he would have already made a court challenge himself.


79 posted on 01/05/2016 4:01:56 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Better to air it now then later. The definitions are not straightforward. My reading is that it depends on his mother’s status. In 1970 if she applied for Canadian citizenship she was considered to have renounced her American citizenship. Pretty hard to prove one way or the other 40-45 years after the fact unless she had to reapply when they moved back to USA.

“An act of March 2, 1907, also known as the Expatriation Act, changed all this. Congress mandated that “any American woman who marries a foreigner shall take the nationality of her husband.” Upon marriage, regardless of where the couple resided, the woman’s legal identity morphed into her husband’s.
An American woman who married a non-U.S. citizen after September 22, 1922, would no longer lose her citizenship if her husband was eligible to become a citizen. The Cable Act was great news for couples marrying after 1922.

The act of July 2, 1940, provided that all women who
had lost citizenship by marriage could repatriate regardless of their marital status. They only had to take an oath of allegiance-no declaration of intention was required. But they still had to show that they had resided continuously in the United States since the date of the marriage.’

http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf

Current Law on Loss of U.S. Nationality

Loss of nationality, also known as expatriation, means the loss of citizenship status properly acquired, whether by birth in the United States, through birth abroad to U.S. citizen parents, or by naturalization. As a result of several constitutional decisions, §349(a) of the current Immigration and Nationality Act (”INA”) provides that U.S. nationality is lost only when the U.S. citizen does one of the specified acts described in INA §349, voluntarily and with the intent to give up that nationality. If any one of these requirements is lacking, nationality is not lost.

Acts not specified in INA §349 do not result in expatriation. For example, acquisition of foreign nationality at birth will not result in expatriation. However, two expatriating acts contained in INA §349 are relevant to the issue of dual nationality. They are:

obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon the citizen’s own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; and

taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof after having attained the age of eighteen years. (This is the action taken by Cruz’s mother before his birth)

http://www.americanlaw.com/dualcit.html


80 posted on 01/05/2016 4:02:30 PM PST by JayGalt
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