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1 posted on 01/12/2016 6:34:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Before anyone misreads the author, I don;t think he is calling for anyone to DISREGARD what the constitution says today.

I think he believes it is time to change this part of the constitution via the normal constitutional process,


2 posted on 01/12/2016 6:36:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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I don’t think it archaic. Fourteen years of living here is nothing if one is dedicated to the destruction of the US. Look at Obama. He barely lived in the US and his loyalties are to anything but traditional United States value and culture.


3 posted on 01/12/2016 6:38:27 AM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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Lots of people are just itching to have a real iatolla for pResident.
5 posted on 01/12/2016 6:39:12 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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This is an interesting progression. Now that those who have questions about Cruz's "natural born citizen" status are concerned about a real problem, and aren't comfortable with ignoring it, the argument turns. Now the argument is "who cares".

We should care. Globalism is out of control. We should not give up anything that shreds our Constitution and the intent of our Founding Fathers.

6 posted on 01/12/2016 6:39:21 AM PST by grania
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“Marcus gives a brief historical rundown of the particulars of how this rule came to be, focusing on fears in the early republic that unscrupulous foreigners would run for office and try to undo the radical American experiment in freedom and democracy. That, she claims, as have many others, is no longer really relevant in a strong and stable nation of immigrants. It leads to odd anomalies as to who can or can’t become president, based on nothing but the accident of birth.”
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“...that unscrupulous foreigners would run for office and try to undo the radical American experiment in freedom and democracy...”
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I’m sure that could never happen here!!!!!


7 posted on 01/12/2016 6:39:35 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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Liberals want to do away with our so called archaic first and second amendment rights when we exercise them.

$crew them and anyone else who seeks to destroy our constitution!


8 posted on 01/12/2016 6:40:14 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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The Globalist crowd has destroyed the Constitution.

America will no longer be governed by people born on US soil and of US citizen parents.

The bar for POTUS keeps getting lower.

Won’t be long before we have one world leader dictating to all. Born anywhere in the world.

There will be no US law. Only international law.


9 posted on 01/12/2016 6:40:23 AM PST by dforest
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President is a unique position. I have no problem requiring the individual be born in this country and even raised in the country and having lots of pride in the US and less sympathy/pride in some other country. Being raised in another country makes it more likely that someone has divided loyalties (e.g. Obama). We can’t guarantee anything but I think for President we should be able to find one individual out of 300 million who has less risk of divided loyalties from childhood.

Of course the left is doing their best to make sure anyone raised in the US does not have pride in our country and we’re better of with a President who’s never been to the US than someone raised in a lefty environment.


11 posted on 01/12/2016 6:45:05 AM PST by LostPassword
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Just say NO to dual citizens...


14 posted on 01/12/2016 6:52:25 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To quote Donald Trump, “You either have a country or you don’t.” Succinct, to the point and true. If we’re going to let the melting pot become a catch all for just anyone who wants a piece of it(which we are pretty close to doing); then we don’t have one.


20 posted on 01/12/2016 6:57:50 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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Now, as Ted Cruz is under attack from Trump...

Oh, he is not.

Trump is cleaning up the mess before it becomes a problem.

People don't understand what The Media is going to do with the Cruz citizenship thing, because of the way 0Muslim's citizenship "problems" were so easily defused by The Media.

If Ted Cruz had had EXACTLY the same situation as the Kenyan, The Media would have had him evicted from the White House but pronto - first year, at the latest.

Now, they have a situation where Cruz was INDEED born outside the United States, and was apparently a Canadian citizen, to boot.

They're not going to let it go until they're beaten bloody with a legal ruling in the form of a nail-studded baseball bat.

22 posted on 01/12/2016 6:59:01 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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Cruz is ELIGIBLE to run for President
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fted-cruz-legal-argument-against-birthers-2015-3&h=LAQF6W0HC

http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/1961%20Kenyan%20Birth%20Certificate%20of%20Barack%20Hussein%20Obama%20II,%20Copy.pdf

Trump in ‘04: ‘I probably identify more as Democrat’
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/politics/donald-trump-election-democrat/

About one in five Democrats would vote for TRUMP, poll finds

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3392320/Look-Hillary-one-five-Democrats-vote-TRUMP-poll-finds.html#ixzz3wuDG3mIN

Check out post 17, Cruz’s citizenship is well laid out. Constitutional in origin.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3381875/posts

LEAKED: The Story of Ted Cruz
https://youtu.be/3hrms1ACMn0


23 posted on 01/12/2016 6:59:47 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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The current administration is all the proof I need to conclude we need to follow, to the letter, our Constitution. Only natural born citizens, born on soil to two citizen parents, may serve as POTUS.


26 posted on 01/12/2016 7:02:19 AM PST by jpsb
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Natural born? Does that mean NOT by a C-section?


30 posted on 01/12/2016 7:06:21 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Because electing a dual citizen, British subject through his father, and American citizen through his mother, with uncertain birth location (Kenya? Canada? Hawaii?) and formative year upbringing in madrasas in Indonesia, who apparently went to school here as a foreign student has worked out so well for America, hasn’t it???


36 posted on 01/12/2016 7:12:06 AM PST by null and void (This war starts in the spiritual realm-it will end in ours though.)
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Establishment Fear Cruz

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3382657/posts


38 posted on 01/12/2016 7:13:27 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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Natural Born Citizenship: An archaic presidential qualification

Our experience with Barack Obama teaches us the exact opposite.

The future safety and security of this free republic requires the strictest interpretation of the natural born requirement, and We the People must demand it.

56 posted on 01/12/2016 7:25:24 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('A man without force is without the essential dignity of humanity.' - Frederick Douglass)
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when will the empty suit soros house of saud puppet let us see his records......???????


91 posted on 01/12/2016 7:49:08 AM PST by zzwhale
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Ok, so the NBC definition is determined the term US citizen doesn’t reach the high bar. What difference does it make when those who are TBTB at the time don’t care. They like the man and will see to it that no matter what they want that man in charge. It was thought when 0, our dark won was traveling down this road our congress critters, important all knowing agencies would see fit to tell WTP the truth about him....9 years later only a few crickets are heard but where were they when they were needed? This country is NOT in safe hands when men of this type ...sycophant congress critters are elected and sitting on the throne of power. They are as devious and self serving as any bum pickpocket on the crowded streets of rioters.


96 posted on 01/12/2016 7:55:43 AM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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Archaic? Not the word I would have chosen.

Consider the following who were not Natural Born Citizens of the countries they eventually ruled over:

Napoleon was born in Corsica. How did that work out for the French and Europe?

Hitler was born in Austria. How did that work out for the Germans, Europe and the rest of the world?

Stalin was born in Gori, Georgia. How did that work out for Russia/Soviet Union, Europe and the rest of the world?

Those are three somewhat recent examples of why the NBC eligibility requirement (born in country to citizen parents) for POTUS looks like an time-tested, good idea to me.

It's not archaic, silly writer. The word you're looking for is Wisdom!

The term or phrase "natural born citizen" is another one of those self-evident truths that the FFs spoke about and later realized they needed to spell out and protect, and not just from outsiders, but more likely from the lazy, rich kids like US who would inherit the place.

My guess is they must have thought that "natural born citizen" was so basic and self-evident they didn't need to define it like they had to with our Bill of Rights.

Guess they didn't count on a generation as lost as we are.

The way we've redefined things would definitely NOT be self-evident to them in any way at all.

105 posted on 01/12/2016 8:02:11 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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