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Cruz has backing of conservative media in 'birther' fight
Politico ^ | 01/15/16 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 01/15/2016 10:18:55 AM PST by Isara

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To: Isara

“”The chances of any litigation proceeding and succeeding on this are zero.””

That is not very heartening from Our Man Ted.
Not really what we wanted to hear.


41 posted on 01/15/2016 11:13:17 AM PST by Macoozie ("Estoy votando por Ted 2016!" bumper stickers available)
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To: HarleyLady27

Ted conveniently omitted the fact that Trump’s mother was a naturalized American citizen at the time of his birth. He also would know as a lawyer the 1939 Perkins v. Elg case which speaks specifically to the fact that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen. So Trump was born in Queens, his father born in America and his mother was naturalized. Trump is a NBC. As usual, Ted plays a little loose with things for his purposes.


42 posted on 01/15/2016 11:19:42 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I’m NOT lib nor am I a democrat, and if you need to get your candidate to be ‘legal’ in this election, then go ask obuma’s people how they did it!!!

We don’t need another 3 year Senator, that isn’t American Born to lead our Great Country again, we have had that for the past 7 years, and the Supreme Court needs to take the oath they took seriously....if this can’t be done, then the American People need to make sure it is done, after all, these people ‘WORK FOR US’ not the other way around...

Make America Great Again, and quit bowing down to things you don’t like doing or get out of the way so those that know what they are doing can!!!


43 posted on 01/15/2016 11:24:01 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (.."THE FORCE AWAKENS"!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP 100%....)
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To: DannyTN

>> He should have taken Donald’s advice and gotten a Declaratory Judgement <<

Since when does any Federal court issue declaratory judgments?


44 posted on 01/15/2016 11:29:37 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Isara

I have looked and looked for the fairly recent FR post where Cruz, years back, I think it was in Texas, voiced his view to a friend that a ‘natural born citizen’ was someone born to two U.S. citizen parents on U.S. soil. Will someone please steer me to that post. Thanks.


45 posted on 01/15/2016 11:40:30 AM PST by iontheball
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To: HarleyLady27

No one, and I mean literally NO ONE supporting Trump should be questioning ANY other candidates positions on ANY issue.

Given their OWN candidate has taken different Positions on many Issues this past year ALONE. Someone who has also been a member of 3 different political parties in the last 15 years. Someone who has supported both financially and Politically the Clintons, Obama and Open borders.

Wow, I mean really WOW.


46 posted on 01/15/2016 11:44:13 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: VRWCarea51

-— No one, and I mean literally NO ONE supporting Trump should be questioning ANY other candidates positions on ANY issue. Given their OWN candidate has taken different Positions on many Issues this past year ALONE.-—

And last night Trump confessed to changing his birther position because Cruz had moved up in the polls.

This doesn’t slow them down in the slightest.

Trump has got some serious salesman juju going on that I can’t understand in the least.


47 posted on 01/15/2016 11:51:33 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Ha and I see today even Hillary Endorsed the Mouth of Manhattan.

Let’s see Coumo, Deblasio, Bloomturd and now Hillary.

If it walks like a Liberal, talks like a liberal, campaigns like a liberal, FUNDS Liberals, hangs out with Liberals and has no underpinning moral standards like liberals...

Id say it’s a Liberal.


48 posted on 01/15/2016 11:57:06 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: entropy12

NATURAL born means born a citizen as unopposed to naturalized.

2 kinds of citizens, that’s all. There is no magical third class of citizen of people that are born citizens but aren’t “natural born” because you want someone else to be President.


49 posted on 01/15/2016 12:16:50 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Isara
At the end of the day, the legal issue is quite straightforward, but I would note that the birther issues that Donald has been relying on, some of the more extreme ones insist that you not only must be born on U.S. soil, but have two parents born on U.S. soil," Cruz said. "Under that theory, not only would I be disqualified, Marco Rubio would be disqualified, Bobby Jindal would be disqualified, and interestingly enough, Donald J. Trump would be disqualified because, because Donald's mother was born in Scotland, she was naturalized.

Ted just opened the door for Trump to inform voters that his mom became a US Citizen FOUR years before his birth,
unlike the father of Ted who became a US Citizen 35 years after the birth of Ted.

Rafael should have kept quiet so the semi-ignorant would not find out.

50 posted on 01/15/2016 12:38:31 PM PST by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: usafa92
the 1939 Perkins v. Elg case which speaks specifically to the fact that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen.

Nobody questions that - the issue, not decided by Perkins v. Elg, is whether ONLY such persons qualify as natural born citizens.

51 posted on 01/15/2016 1:13:12 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: Impy

When the US constitution was written, there was no such thing as naturalization. It was something congress added later. Only SCOTUS has the final say on this. Not me, not you, not Trump, not Cruz.


52 posted on 01/15/2016 1:15:23 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: Impy
There is no magical third class of citizen of people that are born citizens but aren’t "natural born"

Interesting point; at the time of the Constitution there was AFAIK no such thing, in the confederated colonies nor in England, as naturalization at birth.

53 posted on 01/15/2016 1:16:20 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: VRWCarea51

Yes, Ronald Reagan was once a liberal democrat and a union activist.


54 posted on 01/15/2016 1:16:42 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: DannyTN

Nonsense. Cruz eviscerated TRUMP last night over the birther idiocy.


55 posted on 01/15/2016 1:22:35 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Isara

Levin and other ‘conservative media’ types are cutting their own throats on this.

Personally, I was done with Levin months ago when he came out with this position. I actually regret purchasing his books and of course shall not do so again.

Asserting the ridiculous notion that the offspring of a Foreigner is at once and at the same time a natural born citizen of the United States is utter nonsense.


56 posted on 01/15/2016 1:24:44 PM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: SmokingJoe

LOL the whole country is talking about it today...on every TV news channel, every political radio, and NOT a single talking head said the issue is resolved.

But your opinion has higher value than the entire media?
Bwahahaha...


57 posted on 01/15/2016 1:25:38 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: entropy12
Ronald Reagan was once a liberal democrat

Decades before his presidency - Trump was a liberal 4 years ago (if not more recently).

58 posted on 01/15/2016 1:29:30 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: Hawthorn
"Declaratory judgments are authorized by statute in most common-law jurisdictions. In the United States, the federal government and most states enacted statutes in the 1920s and 1930s authorizing their courts to issue declaratory judgments.[7]"


59 posted on 01/15/2016 1:32:44 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Hawthorn
"Declaratory judgments are authorized by statute in most common-law jurisdictions. In the United States, the federal government and most states enacted statutes in the 1920s and 1930s authorizing their courts to issue declaratory judgments.[7]"

Wikipedia Declaratory Judgements

60 posted on 01/15/2016 1:33:07 PM PST by DannyTN
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