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Cruz has backing of conservative media in 'birther' fight
Politico ^ | 01/15/16 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 01/15/2016 10:18:55 AM PST by Isara

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To: DannyTN

I once told a few here what it is about ‘declaratory judgements’ you posted, but they predictably pooh poo’ed it.


21 posted on 01/15/2016 10:37:42 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: DannyTN

Haha...an 85 yr old Texas Democrat party hack has no standing in the matter, and the loathsome Rep. Alan Grayson from FL is a national joke among people of normal intelligence, so don’t put too much faith in these laughable attempts to derail Cruz. However, when Cruz begins to unload some of Trump’s baggage from his Democrat days, the fun will begin.


22 posted on 01/15/2016 10:38:51 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: DannyTN
The lawsuit will get laughed out of court either due to standing, or due to being considered a political question for the people to decide.

He was born a citizen. There's some parsing about smoke stirrers and armchair attorneys who think that a treatise is the same as law and that there's a difference between someone born a citizen and someone who is a "natural born" citizen.

Courts are not going to get in the middle of that if the issue isn't 99% correct (non citizen, residency, etc). "Don't like him beat him in an election" is their view.

23 posted on 01/15/2016 10:39:08 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Cruz in 2016 - No Trump. No Jeb.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Really??? Then why did he say he did it? Lying again...see he's a ‘politician’ and that is exactly what we don't want anymore of...

Hiding things, ‘oh I forgot to tell the FEC about the ‘loan’ I got, but I'll take care of it’....or how about...’H1B visas that he wanted to do, then flip flopped it back’?...or how about the ‘Club for Growth’...or how about the ‘CFR’....and we wondered when GWB came out and said he's an ‘opportunist’ well now we know....

24 posted on 01/15/2016 10:40:08 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (.."THE FORCE AWAKENS"!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP 100%....)
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To: Darren McCarty

Who can be sure the courts would even render the correct verdict? Apparently written words in the law aren’t enough to take at face value. People get hung up on intent, which is like detecting micro aggressions in spoken words.


25 posted on 01/15/2016 10:40:12 AM PST by paintriot
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To: Timber Rattler

I was making a rhetorical comment.


26 posted on 01/15/2016 10:41:37 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Darren McCarty
There's some parsing about smoke stirrers and armchair attorneys who think that a treatise is the same as law and that there's a difference between someone born a citizen and someone who is a "natural born" citizen.

The Supreme Court said as much in Wong,1898.

27 posted on 01/15/2016 10:42:06 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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28 posted on 01/15/2016 10:42:51 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

“he said they were sealed”

When did he say this, do you have a link?


29 posted on 01/15/2016 10:44:08 AM PST by FewsOrange
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To: Timber Rattler

[From whom? A liberal judge? No thanks.]

Well, now Cruz has to deal with an entire LAWSUIT. Liberal judge or not!


30 posted on 01/15/2016 10:44:45 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: DannyTN
He should have taken Donald’s advice and gotten a Declaratory Judgement

Like the one Obama went and got when Trump went Birther on him? Oh wait, Obama didn't bother to get one, maybe it really isn't necessary. In fact I don't recall reading a single reference ever to a "Declaratory Judgement" by ANY side on the Obama birther debate. Trump is making this up as a false solution. Nothing a lower court says on any subject can't be appealed, in theory, all the way up. Don't appease bullies and when it comes to litigation, Trump is one. Just ask the little old lady whose house he wanted to pave over. Obama didn't and Trump went away.

31 posted on 01/15/2016 10:46:23 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changed)
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To: exit82
Why did the framers of constitution said NATURAL Born Citizen, And NOT simply a citizen? What did NATURAL mean during the time period when our Constitution was written? Only SCOTUS can sort this out. Everything else is Hot Air.
32 posted on 01/15/2016 10:48:11 AM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
Well, now Cruz has to deal with an entire LAWSUIT. Liberal judge or not!

Orly Taitz is amused.

33 posted on 01/15/2016 10:48:36 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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“I have been wondering why Lawrence Tribe spoke up about this topic.” “Rather obvious if looking at some of his history...”

Consider this as one motive of Tribe - he was Al Gore’s lawyer when Gore was trying to take the election from George Bush - Tribe lost. He would love to take down a Republican presidential candidate to assuage his failure to put Gore in the White House. Taking down Cruz would cause Tribe to celebrate by partaking in numerous glasses of an adult beverage.

Tribe and other liberals think Hillary would beat Trump, so make Trump the candidate, not Cruz whose numbers say he would beat Hillary. If Tribe could take out Cruz, he could take the credit for Hillary becoming president. After all these years when Tribe lost putting Gore in the White House, he would live the rest of his life believing he paid back the Republicans for his loss by putting Hillary in the White House.


34 posted on 01/15/2016 10:50:00 AM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: Isara

Talk about unintended consequences.

So when the Dems decide Mohammad Akbar born over in some desert craphole is likewise eligible because his mom was/is a US citizen, we’ll all know who to thank.

Thanks a pant-load Ted!


35 posted on 01/15/2016 10:51:11 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Marcella

Good points.


36 posted on 01/15/2016 10:51:32 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: HarleyLady27
So you don't agree with the United States Constitution,
ESPECIALLY, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution listing the powers given to the Congress, especially
the third item, the power to


37 posted on 01/15/2016 10:53:40 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: HarleyLady27
The only thing that is going to help Cruz now is an American Birth Certificate....

Well, Photoshop has kept the kenyan in power for 7 LONG years.

38 posted on 01/15/2016 10:54:39 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (My Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now!)
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To: entropy12

“Why did the framers of constitution said NATURAL Born Citizen, And NOT simply a citizen?”

Because the term citizen also covers those who were not citizens when they were born, but became citizens later in life via naturalization.


39 posted on 01/15/2016 11:00:15 AM PST by FewsOrange
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To: Darren McCarty
He was born a citizen. There's some parsing about smoke stirrers and armchair attorneys who think that a treatise is the same as law and that there's a difference between someone born a citizen and someone who is a "natural born" citizen.

OF COURSE he is.

You apparently don't remember how the Lefty Media DeathStar "magically" turned Bill Clinton's serious felonies of perjury, obstruction of justice, and witness tampering into "It's just about sex...".

And how the Media DeathStar is holding Hillary The Liar's hundreds of felonies at bay. "Nothing to see here, move along."

The DeathStar will "magically" turn this nothing burger into A Big Deal. Mark my words.

40 posted on 01/15/2016 11:03:51 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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