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Let's Put an End to this Birther Nonsense about Ted Cruz
Red State ^ | January 19, 2016 | Jake from Red State

Posted on 01/19/2016 8:55:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: TheCipher

Not so!

Dissenting opinion was in error!

Anyone can be stripped of their citizenship; remember Nolan? The man without a country?

The dissenters were nut cases.


201 posted on 01/21/2016 9:27:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TheCipher; Cboldt; Ray76

Not so!

Dissenting opinion was in error!

Anyone can be stripped of their citizenship; remember Nolan? The man without a country?

The dissenters were nut cases.


202 posted on 01/21/2016 9:30:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

> Anyone can be stripped of their citizenship

Persons who acquire citizenship via federal statute can lose their citizenship if they fail to fulfill statutory requirements (Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815).

A citizen under the 14th Amendment can not have their citizenship revoked (Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253).


203 posted on 01/21/2016 9:49:18 PM PST by Ray76
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To: editor-surveyor
Not so!Dissenting opinion was in error! Anyone can be stripped of their citizenship, remember Nolan? The man without a country?

You don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, the opinion had nothing to do with stripping of citizenship. It was the holding. Nolan was a fictional character.Even with Nolan, it was an action by Nolan himself that instigated the stripping of his citizenship. If you read Belli like you claim, you see they make a distinction between someone that does something of his own free will as opposed to someone that has not done anything.

204 posted on 01/21/2016 10:10:14 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: editor-surveyor
-- Anyone can be stripped of their citizenship; remember Nolan? The man without a country? --

Can Your U.S. Citizenship Be Revoked? - FindLaw

That says only naturalized citizens can lose citizenship, by denaturalization.

Speaking of people without a country ...

Dominican Republic Stripped Hundreds of Thousands of Haitians of Their Citizenship - Reason|Ed Krayewski|Jun. 18, 2015

In 2013 the Dominican Constitutional Court ruled that only people born to at least one Dominican parent could claim Dominican citizenship ...

What is the Nolan case? I've been looking for it, seeing as how your remarks sometimes lead to interesting self-education about the subject, and about your honesty.

205 posted on 01/22/2016 3:01:30 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: editor-surveyor
-- [In the Bellei case] The dissenters were nut cases. --

You need to maintain a position that the whole court is nut cases. All of them view Bellei as naturalized.

206 posted on 01/22/2016 3:21:18 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
What is the Nolan case?

There is no Nolan case. He is a fictional character in a short story :-)

207 posted on 01/22/2016 4:42:56 AM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: TheCipher

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No, Nolan was not a fictional character.

There were fictional novels that took off of the theme, and a movie too, but Nolan was real, and an excellent example of the kinds of judges a popping jay like Trump would be likely to appoint.


208 posted on 01/22/2016 10:31:58 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cboldt

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A person born a citizen cannot get naturalized.

One must be an alien to get naturalized.

You’ve woven an immense web of stupidity.


209 posted on 01/22/2016 10:35:35 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
-- A person born a citizen cannot get naturalized. One must be an alien to get naturalized. --

At least we agree on those two points. Except your definition of "get naturalized" isn't the definition used in the law.

210 posted on 01/22/2016 10:39:06 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: David; null and void; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; sweetiepiezer; frog in a pot; ...
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However, the uncertainty involved works against the Cruz interest to a significant degree--I doubt that he is going to get the nomination unless the issue gets resolved.

Frankly, given Senator Cruz's high level of sophistication on Constitutional Law issues, I am disappointed that he has not advanced a plan to get it resolved earlier.

211 posted on 01/22/2016 11:35:27 AM PST by LucyT
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To: editor-surveyor
No, Nolan was not a fictional character.

Now you are just insane. Show me where Nolan was real. Have you ever even read the story ? Do you even know what it was about ? It was a commentary on the Civil War and the need for the preservation on the Union.

There were fictional novels that took off the theme

Do you understand what fictional means and taking off a theme? It means something that is made up, never happened and a theme is an idea. Why don't you come up with some quotes from Harry Potter while you are at it. They would be just as relevant.

212 posted on 01/22/2016 6:56:03 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: Ladysforest

Remember when BO brazenly admitted British citizenship (via his father) at birth? The quote smacks of that.


213 posted on 01/22/2016 8:15:48 PM PST by thecodont
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