Posted on 01/19/2016 8:55:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Problem is that the 1790 act stipulates “parents” plural, which would not apply to Cruz. The notion that one parent, and especially the mother, passes on natural born citizenship is a much later innovation that wasn’t around at the time of the Founders.
Further, the Bellei case actually supports the birther case, which the author apparently doesn’t understand.
Too late. 28% in the latest polling believe it.
Such numbers are “sticky”. Likely 1/4 of people will believe this ten years after Ted has assumed room temperature.
Trump knew EXACTLY what he was doing. Hope he is as precise and lethal when attacking Democrats.
“What are you wearing, Jake from Red State?....”
I couldn’t resist.
: )
Yes..yes... just put that all out of your minds.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Just take your blue pill and believe what we tell you!
Let’s see Cruz’s CRBA.
Why hasn’t he released it?
[Hope he is as precise and lethal when attacking Democrats.]
He will be more so. I’m imagining something akin to Sherman’s march on Atlanta.
I think his birther shot at Rafael was also a warning to Obozo. Trump was involved with Sheriff Joe if I remember correctly.
You can’t win a Presidental election with 28% believing you are not
qualified to run.
An act of Congress can not change the Constitution, only an ammendment can. Citizens under U.S.C. 8 .....1401, are Naturalized at birth because they are NOT Natural Born.
You cant win a Presidental election with 28% believing you are not
qualified to run.
Let’s not.
The Supremes need to make a decision. Like the 2000 election they need to get involved but BEFORE the primary season. Which means NOW.
I'm just about fed up with all these ignorant so called "experts" who themselves do not know what the h3ll they are talking about.
Don't tell me what this or that family did. Tell me why they put the word "natural" in the requirement back in 1787.
Just tell me that. I don't care about trivia occurring hundreds of years later.
Can we drop this phony matter now? This article proves Ted Cruz is a natural-born citizen.
Sorry, GOPe!
Perhaps he believes that producing the CRBA to fanfare and flourish while saying “See? I told you I was a citizen” will end his problem. It might be an entertaining PR stunt but it does nothing to change his ineligibility for the presidency.
Don't trust me, read the case yourself. Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971)
Mr. Bellei was a US citizen who was born in Italy. His mother was a US citizen, his father was Italian.
Mr. Cruz and Mr. Bellei have identical birth circumstance for purposes of analysis, although Mr. Bellie's father never resided in the US - totally irrelevant factoid, but it is a potential difference in a different case.
Citizenship granted to Mr. Cruz and Mr. Bellei arises under slightly different statutes. As noted in opening, Mr. Bellei was a US citizen, as is Mr. Cruz. Under the Act of Congress that applied to Bellei, he had to reside in the US for certain number of years before he reached a certain age. It was a further condition, to maintain the US citizenship that he obtained at birth.
Mr. Bellei did not satisfy the conditions enumerated in the act of Congress, which created the issue that lead to the case. Mr. Bellei lost his citizenship, and sued to get it back.
If Bellei had been an NBC, his citizenship would not be subject to an Act of Congress, and could not have been stripped. The case would not exist.
The case was decided 5-4, turning on the meaning of "in", in the 14th amendment phrase "born or naturalized in the United States." Obviously, Bellei was not born in the US.
The majority said that Bellei was naturalized in Italy, not in the US. And so, it was not unconstitutional to strip him of his citizenship. The dissent felt this literal reading was wring, and "in the United states" should be read as "anywhere in the world."
The case is loaded with historical reference and at one point literally says "Bellei, as a naturalized American ..."
Don't take my word for it. I linked the case above. Correct me where I am wrong, or admit this is the was SCOTUS views citizenship acquired solely by operation of an Act of Congress.
Your willingness to thrash our constitution to elect your guy disgusts me. You are no better then the rats that elected Zero.
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