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Trump Vs. Cruz: Wrecking The Establishment Vs. Standing With Conservatism
Breitbart.com ^ | January 20, 2016 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 01/20/2016 5:31:09 AM PST by Biggirl

The battle between Senator Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Donald Trump has now divided insurgent Republicans into two camps: those who prize conservative values over all else, and those who prize slapping the establishment over all else. That, in essence, is the dividing line between the two candidates.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; elections; gop; immigration; ineligible; trump; trumpwasright
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1 posted on 01/20/2016 5:31:10 AM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

Or the purists versus the pragmatists.


2 posted on 01/20/2016 5:34:16 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Or the supposed conservatives who have waited for a constitutional candidate for decades going for cult of personality rather a constitutional conservative.


3 posted on 01/20/2016 5:37:28 AM PST by libbylu (Trump's supporters have the same brain disease as Hillary's supporters)
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To: SpaceBar

Trump is a liberal with some conservative tendencies. Cruz is a conservative. You decide.


4 posted on 01/20/2016 5:38:05 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Biggirl

People have made up their minds. Someone is going to win and some are going to lose.

Some have just had enough of it.

Meanwhile Bernie is soaring.


5 posted on 01/20/2016 5:38:51 AM PST by dforest
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To: Biggirl

Wrecking the establishment is the more important goal IMHO.


6 posted on 01/20/2016 5:39:08 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Trump is a populist.


7 posted on 01/20/2016 5:39:55 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Do some research on pragmatism before you get too excited about it.


8 posted on 01/20/2016 5:40:42 AM PST by don-o
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To: Biggirl
I like Trumps experience and understanding of the economic disparity between China and the US.

I believe Trump would be a lion on the international scene. I believe he will make hard decision that other politicians would shy away from.

I don't see Cruz being able to go head to head with Putin. But, I think Trump would eat him alive.
9 posted on 01/20/2016 5:42:21 AM PST by StormPrepper
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To: Biggirl
And then we add in the auce of one of the candidate is a stealth subversive of the constitution, and things get lively!

Except the pundits seem to overlook the fact of constitutional qualifications, as though they don't even exist, or are merely a question raised by kooks.

Don't get me wrong, same thing was done for admitted Dual-citizen at birth Obama, and look what THAT got us.

If a dual citizen can get away with it, might as well go for the full-on born abroad camp too.

Makes me want to puke.

10 posted on 01/20/2016 5:43:57 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SpaceBar

He’s a liberal populist!


11 posted on 01/20/2016 5:52:16 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SpaceBar

Trump is an example of a “perfect” DUmocrat. Recycled slogans and a vacant Conservative record.


12 posted on 01/20/2016 5:55:38 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cboldt

If you are so opposed to dual citizens, why are you enamored of STrump, a dual national of both the US and UK.

And don’t go off on a bunch of irrelevant riffs if you don’t know the relevant law.


13 posted on 01/20/2016 5:56:09 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: SpaceBar
Trump is a populist.

Yup. A right-leaning Populist. And that's the best we can hope for right now IMHO. The GOPe has destroyed the Conservative brand with too many voters through their two-plus decades of sucking-up to the Chamber of Commerce.


14 posted on 01/20/2016 5:57:08 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: libbylu

Say what you will about him. Had Trump not come on the scene, we would be presented with a fait accompli in the anointing of Jeb Bush as the nominee. There is no question about that in my mind.

We would also never have returned the word “illegal” to our national lexicon, nor would ANY candidate have EVER dared voice reservations about all the damned Muslims we do in this country. NONE of them.

Although I’m not voting for him since I will vote for Cruz, I do thank Trump for those two things.


15 posted on 01/20/2016 5:58:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Biggirl

Implicit in the headline is that the establishment is conservative.


16 posted on 01/20/2016 5:58:51 AM PST by Ray76
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To: StormPrepper

Would be very difficult to “take on Putin” when your one of the primary choir boys singing his praises and making the case that the Russians are “just like us”...hes an Obama clone.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-praises-putin-216929


17 posted on 01/20/2016 6:00:04 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SpaceBar

—— purists versus the pragmatists-—

I’ll buy that

also dreamers vs realists


18 posted on 01/20/2016 6:01:32 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Biggirl

Funny. In this case standing with the conservative IS fighting the establishment.

It is not an either-or choice.

Trump is a Democrat in Republican clothing. Cruz is a Constitutional conservative the likes of which we haven’t seen in thirty years.

So what’s this website’s reaction? You got it. Trash the conservative.

Freepers may just get the candidate their lack of common sense so richly deserves. They’ll then be unable to complain, but the “I told you so’s” will come at the expense of what’s left of our Republic.

We’ll take no pride in being proven right once more. But there’s still time to support conservatism through Ted Cruz.


19 posted on 01/20/2016 6:03:22 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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To: Biggirl

The #1 job this election was to defeat the Establishment. Either Trump or Cruz do that. So, I’m happy we’ve succeeded.

Job #2 is to promote conservatism above the Establishment. Only Cruz does that, so I support him.

I’ll vote for Trump to ensure the Establishment loses. But I prefer Cruz.


20 posted on 01/20/2016 6:06:09 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Lindsey Graham: Ted Cruz Is Worse Than Donald Trump)
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