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Trump asks voters to boycott Apple: 'I think that's a great idea'
Washington Examiner ^ | 19 Feb 16 | GABBY MORRONGIELLO

Posted on 02/19/2016 12:56:20 PM PST by big'ol_freeper

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To: 5thGenTexan

They already are.


81 posted on 02/19/2016 1:31:31 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: VanDeKoik

People are eager to jump to that conclusion but I just saw a discussion on Fox on this matter.

It is not that simple.

The problem is that people do not trust the government and this technology has prosecutors salivating in criminal matters.

There may come a time, if we elect Cruz, when we can trust the government but I don’t want a backdoor opened into my phone.

Sometimes I talk to my son for an hour about private matters.


82 posted on 02/19/2016 1:32:46 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: 5thGenTexan
And you know the government will not ask them to use this knowledge more often and for lesser cases how, exactly?

Exactly. One of Apple's biggest legal arguments in this case is that the feds' request that they create a new version of iOS (which would enable the phone to be unlocked using brute force techniques) creates an "unreasonable burden." As soon as Apple creates the version of iOS the feds are seeking here, you can bet that any time the feds want info from a locked phone in the future, they would run to court arguing that "we know for a fact that Apple possesses a software tool that would enable us to unlock this phone," and thus that there is no additional burden from requiring them to use the software again.

83 posted on 02/19/2016 1:33:07 PM PST by zedee
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To: big'ol_freeper
Wow....is the anointed one now going to dictate what products his followers use?

(snicker)

84 posted on 02/19/2016 1:33:44 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: dfwgator

Negotiation with Cook/ Apple to break the security for that one phone.

Watch Cook offer to crack the codes for that one phone in an Apple lab with FBI agents monitoring but not getting the decipher key/code.

The feds can provide a search warrant for what is in that one phone with the above provisions of safety/concerns for Cook/Apple.


85 posted on 02/19/2016 1:34:23 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Technical thread on the topic. If this article is true, claiming that Apple just CAN’T break the encryption on a terrorists’ phone (which makes no sense), then Apple is an ass and we are so screwed. I’m going with “someone is lying” here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3399053/posts


86 posted on 02/19/2016 1:34:24 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: bigbob

How many times have you heard that?

In this case only.

No, no we would never invade anyone else’s privacy with this technology.

I think this would be thoroughly discussed by people who know stuff and I don’t include Trump in that group.

He’s simply milking the popular viewpoint for votes.

It’s what he does.


87 posted on 02/19/2016 1:34:41 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: lquist1

Especially since he’s twittering from an iphone and holds millions in Apple stock - see Twitchy.


88 posted on 02/19/2016 1:35:33 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: zedee

This would be justified in a war context, but it’s being treated in a crime context.

We still trust the government with war, but also expect it to call war, war. Don’t lie to us that this is crime fighting.


89 posted on 02/19/2016 1:35:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bigbob

Absolutely.

The FBI is asking Apple to do nothing to remove the privacy features. They are requesting - IN THIS CASE ONLY - to remove the limit on the number of retries. 15 minutes work for a programmer. Once that’s done, the FBI can use it’s existing tools to crack the password and then decrypt the information on this TERRORISTS PHONE. No different than in the past.


90 posted on 02/19/2016 1:36:15 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: catfish1957
Wow....is the anointed one now going to dictate what products his followers use?

So saying "I think it's a good idea" is dictating?

91 posted on 02/19/2016 1:36:34 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: bigbob

I’ve read so many stories about what the FBI is asking of Apple I don’t know what to believe. It just seems the FBI should be able to crack it themselves since they are supposed to be the best.


92 posted on 02/19/2016 1:37:00 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Treat war as war.

How will that sentiment play out when their are those in power believing right wing gun toters are a bigger threat than Islamists? Are you comfortable with going there?

93 posted on 02/19/2016 1:37:18 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Rusty0604

This sounds like it should be a CIA job. Not an FBI one.


94 posted on 02/19/2016 1:37:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Good post about the Trump crowd.

They are whiffing on something.


95 posted on 02/19/2016 1:37:56 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Dr. Sivana
...conseravtives in IT NEVER liked the government having the keys.

From a proprietary interest standpoint, one would think the law supports the view you describe.

Do you know whether Apple has argued it will not disclose trade secrets but will give the USG the information it requests pursuant to a court order, if that information is available?

A side issue may be that if the hardware is manufactured in China and it has the software (undoubtedly)...those clever fella's already have the keys.

96 posted on 02/19/2016 1:38:15 PM PST by frog in a pot (Did the founders intend that our CinC could be born in a foreign country to a foreign parent?)
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To: 5thGenTexan

If a government can’t be trusted with war on the level of calling war war, then we’re scrod anyhow. We mucked it up bad enough.


97 posted on 02/19/2016 1:38:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Mr Trump, for all his smarts and campaigning skill, can be seriously wrong at times.


98 posted on 02/19/2016 1:39:10 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: altura

I didn’t talk about the Trump crowd but the crowd that is crying about their rights now.


99 posted on 02/19/2016 1:39:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: zedee

Please do not believe everything Van De what says.

He is a total Trump freak.

Ted did not say anything of the kind. He did discuss the issue on CNN and discussed what Apple should do.


100 posted on 02/19/2016 1:39:29 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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