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Snowden: FBI's claim it can't unlock the San Bernardino iPhone is 'bull****' (VIDEO)
The Guardian ^ | Wednesday 9 March 2016 06.30 EST | By Samuel Gibbs

Posted on 03/11/2016 1:11:35 PM PST by Swordmaker

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To: jessduntno
Nope, just the one.

You keep saying that but it just isn't true for multiple reasons posted on this forum a multitude of times.

41 posted on 03/11/2016 6:31:36 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: jessduntno
I think trying to cash in on the deaths of all those people is horrifyingly bad form.

Yes, and the Government and you should be ashamed for trying to do it.

42 posted on 03/11/2016 6:33:26 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: itsahoot

“You keep saying that but it just isn’t true for multiple reasons posted on this forum a multitude of times.”

Repetition doesn’t make ANYTHING true.


43 posted on 03/11/2016 6:35:57 PM PST by jessduntno ("Where the Hell do you put the bayonet?" - Gen. "Chesty" Puller, at a flamethrower demonstration.)
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To: Swordmaker

I don’t believe we’ve conversed before, but we won’t again.


44 posted on 03/11/2016 8:14:38 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs
I don’t believe we’ve conversed before, but we won’t again.

Well, Mr. Treetop. You came onto this thread talking about some very expert Freepers in some very nasty terminology, using very insulting terms. Why WOULD I want to have any more conversations with you? We know what we are talking about. From your nasty, nasty comments it was obvious you had no clue about what you were talking about, and insulting those of us who do, actually, know more than you. You made yourself a target for being brought up short. Apologies will be accepted, and you can start over.

45 posted on 03/11/2016 9:17:23 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: jessduntno; ctdonath2; itsahoot
Repetition doesn’t make ANYTHING true.

ROTFLMAO!

Says the poster who is the most ignorantly untruthfully repetitious poster on these threads.

46 posted on 03/11/2016 9:19:31 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

“Says the poster who is the most ignorantly untruthfully repetitious poster on these threads.”

Says the outraged poster who objects to name calling. The only thing repititious about my post is that you and your little friends are more interested in pumping Apple than observing the rule of law.


47 posted on 03/11/2016 10:08:57 PM PST by jessduntno ("Where the Hell do you put the bayonet?" - Gen. "Chesty" Puller, at a flamethrower demonstration.)
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To: Cyman
A thought popped into my mind...If people are suing the gun industry for making guns that helped cause the death of the children at Sand Hook would not the same avenue be available for the survivors and family of San Bernadino mass murders with Apple?

A not even smart lawyer can make the connection with the terrorists use of their Apple phones as an instrument used that directly( and could not have happened without using those phones because of their STAUNCH encryption safeguards) caused the death of those people celebrating Christmas

The terrorists' used a black Lexus SUV to both drive to the scene of the party, and then to leave. It probably had more to do with the attack than did the work phone of Syed Farouk. After all, they went to extraordinary lengths to destroy the burner phones they had, as well as the laptop computers. For those they went to the added difficulty of removing the hard drive and smashing them separately. They then took even more steps by driving to a lake and tossing smashed burners, smashed HDs, and smashed laptops into the lake! The memory chips that were on them have been turned into rubble and the carcasses have been soaking in water for some time.

The data on those $30 burner smartphones has been deleted far better than anything on that iPhone. Better yet, from the viewpoint of terrorists, the phone records were never turned over to the authorities, because those data were never tracked because the police and FBI have no clue about what numbers were assigned to those phones! The terrorists buy minute cards for cash at convenience stores and that's not trackable. There is simply no way for authorities to track backwards to find out. They don't even know what carrier they were on.

As a result, they don't have even the messages that were sent, the phone numbers that were called, or the numbers that called into those burner phones. . . or the emails that were sent to the emails registered to those burner phones. THAT, Cyman, is the ultimate security, not the iPhone. THAT is what the ISIS website recommends to their out-in-the-field terrorists to use, it's what the ISIS apps are designed to be downloaded on, not an iPhone that you have to register on a known carrier's network with a credit card, and Apple doesn't have ISIS Terrorist App Store section!

For the iPhone 5C they had in the Lexus, the work phone, the authorities have ALL of that. They know what phone numbers called in and out, what messages were sent and received, and what emails were sent and received. This was all supplied by Verizon, the carrier. Except for a very few calls from Syed Farouk's monster wife during work hours from her personal, non-burner phone, ALL the traffic on that iPhone was work related from known phone numbers having to do with San Bernardino County Public Health business. The question arises is WHY, given all that, does the FBI think that there is anything at all probative on that iPhone?

Ask yourself another very serious question Cyman. After going to all that trouble to destroy the electronics they were actual using for their terrorist activities, why didn't Syed Farouk destroy the iPhone?

The most logical reason is there's nothing except work related information on it.

There's another reason. Recall that both Farouk and Malik were supposedly very "religious" people who were going to meet Allah. Killing their enemies, especially infidels, is not considered sinful. The more they kill, the more servants they will have in paradise. However, there are some religious requirements before performing such acts of Jihad. One much be ritually and morally clean, that means one must be purified by ritually bathing before the act, be up-to-date on one's prayers, and one must be "sinless" before setting out to do the act. Theft is a sin.

That iPhone 5C was not Syed Farouk's property. It belonged to his employer. Destroying it would be a "theft", a sin. He could not destroy the iPhone because to do so would make him, by his religious beliefs, morally unready for Jihad. I now it sounds crazy, but that's the way they think. It's OK to kill his co-workers and friends, but not to steal a work phone by smashing it along with the others.

Keep in mind, it is only the work of about five minutes to completely wipe, beyond all recoverability, the data and settings off any iPhone. That is not the case for the majority of Android phones.

48 posted on 03/11/2016 10:10:06 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: jessduntno; DesertRhino; ctdonath2; itsahoot
Says the outraged poster who objects to name calling. The only thing repetitious about my post is that you and your little friends are more interested in pumping Apple than observing the rule of law.

And once again you make a denigrating post, attacking someone you disagree with, using language designed to make others think less of them. You only succeed in proving out point.

Have you read that article yet? Or do you still prefer ignorance over facts?

49 posted on 03/11/2016 10:15:11 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

I’ll have what you boys are smoking. It will help make the Corporate Totalitarianism you’re pushing easier to swallow.

I have summed it up. I’ve said all I have to say. I reject your belief in the sanctity of your little personal ambition to worship at the altar of profits and technology. I’ll stick with a country that is ruled by a Constitution, not by the whim of some “experts” who believe I need to chang a perfectly good structure to accommodate something that will neither contribute or free any one.

Are we clear, now?


50 posted on 03/11/2016 10:21:06 PM PST by jessduntno ("Where the Hell do you put the bayonet?" - Gen. "Chesty" Puller, at a flamethrower demonstration.)
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To: jessduntno; ctdonath2; DesertRhino; itsahoot
Are we clear, now?

Any post that starts with an insult is not worth my time to try and parse any meaning from your drivel which is peppered with more of your slurs and insults. So, no, your calumny made it very muddy. You trash your own points, every single time.

51 posted on 03/11/2016 10:55:54 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

It’s all BS, the Gov has had this phone opened for a while and is playing this game so all the trash doesn’t scatter before the garbage is collected.


52 posted on 03/11/2016 10:58:11 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jessduntno; ctdonath2; itsahoot; DesertRhino
Are we clear, now?

Oh, and you've made your position clear. You littered all over this thread without bothering to read the article, lied about what it was about, elected to remain stupidly ignorant. Your position? Head, up rectum.

53 posted on 03/11/2016 10:59:36 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

“Any post that starts with an insult is not worth my time to try and parse any meaning from your drivel which is peppered with more of your slurs and insults. So, no, your calumny made it very muddy. You trash your own points, every single time.”

Good just so long as we’re clear.


54 posted on 03/11/2016 11:25:17 PM PST by jessduntno ("Where the Hell do you put the bayonet?" - Gen. "Chesty" Puller, at a flamethrower demonstration.)
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To: Williams

agree! FBI/NSA/CIA can unlock this Ifone though it will take 10 days

This is a big Kabuki dance


55 posted on 03/12/2016 7:46:26 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

I never considered “rubbish” to be a verb.

Usually, verbing a noun is a pet peeve of mine.

But, I think I like that one.


56 posted on 03/12/2016 7:49:24 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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