Posted on 03/11/2016 11:12:28 PM PST by Swordmaker
The government does not have the right. End of discussion.
Ben Franklin held people like you in utter contempt. I do, too.
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I think it Abe Lincoln who once observed that "the Constitution is not a suicide pact".
Do you yell "fire" in a crowded theater as well as tolerate Worldwide Jihad?
Look up the context of that quote and get back to me.
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Because that’s what is at stake with this renegade government.
Because that’s what is at stake with renegade governments....
Yes, providing the FBI with the capability to unlock every iPhone on the planet is EXACTLY like the common sense ban on yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
And if one disagrees with you, they tolerate global jihad.
Yes, a very intuitive leap you have made here.
Why don't you look up "Italian Hall disaster" and then get back to *me* regarding reasonable restrictions on Constitutional rights.
There'll be no blanket permission to access phones.The FBI requested a court order to unlock *one* phone in connection to a jihadi attack that killed dozen of US citizens.Any authorization to unlock phones would be on a case-by-case basis and would come from at least one Federal judge.
And I must say that I'm curious about Precious Timmy Cook's histrionics here.Could there be a specific reason why he doesn't want *his* phone unlocked?
You posted an out of context quote in the first place, so the burden is upon you, my friend.
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Are you really trying to suggest that the unlocking of one iPhone does not create a template for unlocking all iPhones?
I guess the Snowden fiasco occurred while you were hibernating. If we have technology, we use it. And the government really has few constraints, wouldn’t you agree?
I don't share your political or personal paranoia.
I close my argument with the same question I always ask...
Please give me the names of one or two Americans who have been verifiably injured, in their person or property, by unconstitutional invasion of their privacy.
Sheryl Atkinson from CBS news springs to mind. Look it up.
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What do you accept as proof?
How do you expect such proof to be found?
We only learned about the massive abuses of the Stassi in East Germany *after* the secret files were finally opened.
The idea that people in power would not use such power is naive.
No.
I’m not going to look it up.
Summarize the important details.
Then, I will verify if you are telling the truth, or lying, or exaggerating.
Sheryl Atkinson from CBS news springs to mind. Look it up.
I thought of her. I predict that zeestephen will not accept it as “verified”.
There are also almost certain instances of pushback against accusers of Bill Clinton, such as Kathleen Wiley. It shows how much power can be brought to bear against an “enemy” of the state.
Abuses?
East Germany was a totalitarian police state.
Who, besides you, did not know its population was routinely spied on?
You don’t pay attention to the news much, do you?
Lady was recently charged with a crime for preventing a cop from killing her dog.
Cop outright lies.
http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2016/03/woman-that-stepped-between-dog-and-cop-about-to-shoot-acquitted/
We are routinely spied on.
Snowden proved that.
Deny the gaia cult, get persecuted.
Tell me we aren’t looking at a police state in the making.
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