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Muhammad Ali’s abhorrent views on race [Psalm 12]
Boston Globe ^ | June 7, 2016 | By Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 06/10/2016 3:54:59 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Edited on 06/10/2016 5:40:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Vermont Lt

Jesus IS the only way

Jan_Sobieski isn’t


41 posted on 06/10/2016 6:33:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Since you think I am claiming omniscience, Let’s make a deal Redneck. I promise to never post to you, if you will not post to me, or hijack my posts. Deal?


42 posted on 06/10/2016 6:37:15 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Perhaps someday you won’t want to be judged solely on some of things you said 50 years ago.


43 posted on 06/10/2016 6:39:51 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Vermont Lt

“But is it necessary to say this stuff after he is gone?”

Yes. Lies need to be contradicted, lest people mistake them for self-evident truth.


44 posted on 06/10/2016 8:09:34 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
The article reads like a young impressionable man who was lost and who, with age and early infirmity, became a different man.

Yet, so many want to bring the Charmin to his grave - while saying he's a POS - ironic, no?

45 posted on 06/11/2016 3:49:47 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Oh, you kid!


46 posted on 06/11/2016 4:51:58 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Big Red Badger
I seem to remember some issues Cassius Clay had with Vietnam.

With Christianity; too.

How's that Islam working for you NOW; Muhammad ??


Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

John 14:6

47 posted on 06/11/2016 5:21:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vermont Lt
But is it necessary to say this stuff after he is gone?

What's wrong with balancing the 'record'?

48 posted on 06/11/2016 5:23:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vermont Lt
And then you can do your whole Jesus is the only way stuff.

Whoo!

Thankful for me; a day has passed!

49 posted on 06/11/2016 5:25:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Can I 'highjack' them?
50 posted on 06/11/2016 5:25:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb
The article reads like a young impressionable man who was lost and who, with age and early infirmity, became a different man.

And he died a MUSLIM!

51 posted on 06/11/2016 5:26:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb
The article reads like a young impressionable man who was lost and who, with age and early infirmity, became a different man.

WAIT!!!

Is this a Joseph Smith thread???

52 posted on 06/11/2016 5:28:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Sigh

He was just as impressionable as many others and I haven't seen anything to indicate he was a devout Muslim as we see them today.

We all have our faults and odds are he did not gain the Kingdom of Heaven - something Christians should regret rather than be exultant about.......

Some of his thoughts should be indication enough that he was trying to figure things out - saying that Blacks shouldn't force themselves on Whites and Whites shouldn't go bonkers over a Black in the neighborhood indicate he was not much different in some areas than those who consider themselves rational today.

Being obsessed with Joseph Smith and his misguided followers indicates that some have their own personal crosses to bear.

53 posted on 06/11/2016 6:08:37 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: IronJack
A loudmouthed goon with jello for morals and tapioca for a brain.

Dang dats good.

54 posted on 06/11/2016 6:59:14 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers.)
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To: Elsie

Yes! You have my permission, Elsie! ;)


55 posted on 06/11/2016 7:03:34 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

So you agree with his racism? Allah bless you!
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I succinctly pointed out the one thing that distinguished Cassius Clay from everyone else. I can’t imagine how you arrived at your erroneous conclusion based on my comment. If you look at some of my previous posts concerning islam you would come to quite a different conclusion.


56 posted on 06/11/2016 9:30:36 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: PROCON; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; ExTexasRedhead; stephenjohnbanker

Muhammad Ali took boxing away from The Mob and gave it to the people and he did so by being a master showman. He also gave millions to charity. He deserves credit for that if nothing else.


57 posted on 06/11/2016 10:01:51 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The barbarians are inside because there are no gates)
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To: trebb
Being obsessed with Joseph Smith...

I hear ya, Man!!

Why NO; Ma'am. We do NOT do this every day of the week!!!



Missionary Guide Rules                                             https://www.lds.org/bc/content/ldsorg/topics/missionary/MissionaryHandbook2006Navigate.pdf
  1. Learn and obey all missionary rules.
  2. Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
  3. Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
  4. Don't debate or argue.
  5. Center your mind on your mission.
  6. Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
  7. Cut your hair regularly.
  8. Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
  9. Be neat and clean.
  10. Bathe frequently.
  11. Use deodorant.
  12. Polish your shoes.
  13. Iron your shirt and business suit.
  14. Arise at 6:30 A.M.
  15. Study for 2 hours every morning.
  16. Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
  17. Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
  18. Exercise regularly.
  19. Write in your journal regularly.
  20. Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
  21. Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
  22. Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
  23. Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
  24. Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
  25. Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
  26. Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
  27. End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
  28. Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
  29. Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
  30. Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
  31. Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
  32. Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
  33. Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
  34. Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
  35. Stay with your companion during all activities.
  36. Do not go on road trips.
  37. Do not leave your assigned area without permission
  38. Do not watch television.
  39. Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
  40. Do not listen to the radio.
  41. Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
  42. Do not participate in musical groups.
  43. Do not participate in athletic teams.
  44. Do not sponsor athletic teams.
  45. Do not engage in contact sports.
  46. Do not engage in water sports.
  47. Do not engage in winter sports.
  48. Do not engage in motorcycling.
  49. Do not engage in horseback riding.
  50. Do not engage in mountain climbing.
  51. Do not embark on a private boat.
  52. Do not embark in a private airplane.
  53. Do not handle firearms.
  54. Do not handle explosives.
  55. Do not swim.
  56. Do not play full court basketball.
  57. Do not play basketball in leagues.
  58. Do not play basketball in tournaments.
  59. You may play half-court basketball.
  60. Never be alone.
  61. Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
  62. Be loyal to your companion.
  63. Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
  64. Pray with your companion every day.
  65. Study with your companion every day.
  66. Plan your work with your companion every day.
  67. Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
  68. Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
  69. Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
  70. Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
  71. Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
  72. Do not arise before your companion.
  73. Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
  74. Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
  75. Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
  76. Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
  77. Do not flirt.
  78. Do not date.
  79. Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
  80. Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
  81. Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
  82. Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
  83. Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
  84. Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
  85. Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
  86. Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
  87. Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
  88. Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
  89. Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
  90. Do not telephone parents
  91. Do not telephone relatives.
  92. Do not telephone friends.
  93. Do not telephone girlfriends.
  94. Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
  95. Take problems and questions to your mission president.
  96. Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
  97. Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
  98. Obey all mission rules.
  99. Obey the laws of the land.
  100. Do not get involved in politics.
  101. Do not get involved in commercial activities.
  102. Do not give any information about the area.
  103. Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
  104. Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
  105. Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
  106. Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
  107. Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
  108. Be courteous.
  109. Provide community service.
  110. Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
  111. Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
  112. Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
  113. Your mission president must approve your housing.
  114. Keep your housing unit clean.
  115. Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
  116. Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
  117. Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
  118. You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
  119. Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
  120. Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
  121. Maintain your health.
  122. Eat a healthy diet.
  123. Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
  124. Follow the approved exercise program.
  125. Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
  126. Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
  127. Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
  128. Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
  129. Be immunized.
  130. Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
  131. Budget your money carefully.
  132. Keep a record of what you spend.
  133. Do not spend more than your companion.
  134. Do not loan money.
  135. Do not borrow money.
  136. Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
  137. Pay your bills before leaving an area.
  138. Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
  139. Do not waste money on souvenirs.
  140. Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
  141. Be a frugal photographer.
  142. Do not accumulate excess baggage.
  143. Obey custom laws and regulations.
  144. Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
  145. Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
  146. Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
  147. Do not drive without a license.
  148. Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
  149. Do not drive members’ cars.
  150. Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
  151. Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
  152. Use cars only on approved mission business.
  153. Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
  154. Be conscious of safety at all times.
  155. Drive defensively.
  156. Wear your seat belt.
  157. Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
  158. If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
  159. Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
  160. Know bicycle safety rules.
  161. Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
  162. Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
  163. Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
  164. Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
  165. Go directly to your new area when transferred.
  166. Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
  167. Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

58 posted on 06/11/2016 11:48:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Yes! You have my permission, Elsie! ;)

I'm tryin'!!

59 posted on 06/11/2016 11:48:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: VRW Conspirator

I’ve hated Ali ever since he started running his mouth. If you’re really “the greatest” at something, you don’t have to tell everyone. They’ll already know.


60 posted on 06/11/2016 12:01:57 PM PDT by IronJack
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