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Russia Quietly Strips Emigres of Dual Citizenship
Forward ^ | June 12, 2016 | Julie Masis

Posted on 06/14/2016 7:08:13 PM PDT by BlackAdderess

Tens of thousands of Russian dual nationals are being effectively stripped of their Russian citizenship via a quiet policy of Russian consulates worldwide refusing to renew their passports.

Under new regulations the consulates are enforcing, anyone seeking to renew a passport who was not registered as living in Russia on February 6, 1992, will be rejected, even if his or her passport had been renewed on previous occasions.

It is unclear just how many people this new policy will affect. But it will certainly apply to thousands of Jews who emigrated from Russia after July 1, 1991 — the date on which the Soviet Union, then in its final days, ended its policy of taking away the passports of Jews who left the country with exit visas to Israel. (The Soviet Union was formally dissolved on December 25, 1991.)

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To: BlackAdderess

The reason is the Citizenship act of 1991: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_Russia


21 posted on 06/14/2016 9:30:55 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: BlackAdderess

What an Idea!

“Don’t care if you were Born Here, when your Parents leave you leave with Their Citizenship, no more Anchor Babies”


22 posted on 06/14/2016 9:38:16 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: NRx

Let me throw a monkey wrench into the “positive” side of Russia dropping a person’ dual citizenship if they lived outside the USSR since 1992.

What better way for a Soviet/Russian spy to become a sole national citizen of the US instead of having a dual citizenship with Russia. That would take FBI surveillance raison d’etres off the operational table.

While this is a little far-fetched, I’ve learned long ago that if you think someone/country won’t do something, they will.

Russia doesn’t give a damned about Soviet/Russian Jews who live abroad because they no longer pose any real intelligence threat against them. However, it would give cover to real Russian operatives because it would make it look like Mother Russia didn’t trust them.

Like James Bond, “Never Say Never” when it comes to the communists/Russians/Islamists and what they won’t do as versus what they will do.

We never thought that the Japanese would attack Hawaii despite the signs, nor that Kruschchev would put nuclear missiles in Cuba. Surprise, surprise.


23 posted on 06/14/2016 10:39:22 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: BlackAdderess

It might not be targeted at Jews, or perhaps not just Jews.

Maybe they see it as a blanket vulnerability - millions of people who could blend in perfectly in Russia, that have been subject to recruitment and training by foreign intelligence services. Perhaps they have caught a few spying on them.

Another possibility is that some number may have been muslims, who now reside in countries that used to be part of the Soviet Union. They may not want a large population with easy access to Russia, who might be getting radicalized in mosques beyond their control.


24 posted on 06/14/2016 11:41:07 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BlackAdderess

Maybe it is just domestic politics - the administration doesn’t like the way they tend to vote.


25 posted on 06/14/2016 11:43:03 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Or maybe they don’t want the people who have seen the Western world to be able to return. TV propaganda would not work half as well on them and they might tell other Russians uncomfortable things a about the world.


26 posted on 06/15/2016 1:28:21 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: NRx

I have agreed, until recently. Naturalized US citizens can still have their newfound citizenship revoked. That means you become a man without a country.

Also, if you have parents still in your home country, you have easier access to handle property and family issues with what is left of your former citizenship.

I still say dual citizenship is not optimal, but I now see why it could be kept.


27 posted on 06/15/2016 3:59:13 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: cloudmountain
The Baikal lake

The Our Lord's Transfiguration's Church in Kizhi

Rides in sledges drown by three horses ("troika)

Classical ballet

Paintings in the Hermitage, the Russian Museum and the Tretyakov gallery

Hounding hares, foxes or the boar

Climbing rocks in Siberia

28 posted on 06/15/2016 6:44:13 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
...it will certainly apply to thousands of Jews who emigrated from Russia after July 1, 1991 — the date on which the Soviet Union, then in its final days, ended its policy of taking away the passports of Jews who left the country with exit visas to Israel. (The Soviet Union was formally dissolved on December 25, 1991.)
IOW, Putin continues to march Russia back to the Gulag.
29 posted on 06/15/2016 1:10:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Chgogal
Who wants a bunch of wishy washy half citizens?

We should do that here. American citizenship should not be a flag of convenience.

30 posted on 06/15/2016 1:27:56 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: katana
I know some Americans who emigrated to Israel who simply could not cut it and native Israelis who decided to leave. It’s a pressure cooker existence, and not only because of the constant threat of terror. Let’s face it, and I say this as someone who genuinely loves and respects the Jews, but they are an argumentative and “stiff necked” people. Put five million of them together in one place, including every little subset of Judaic religious practice, and you’re going to get both a spectacular flowering of genius and five million people prone to screaming in each others’ faces on the smallest provocation. It could make even some of the ones who escaped the USSR homesick for a cold autumn breeze and endless grasses on the steppes.

It's a pressure cooker over there, for sure.
They also have the non-Jewish presence of non-Jews.
From Wikipedia:
The demographic features of Israel are monitored by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics.
The State of Israel has a population of approximately 8,463,500 inhabitants as of the end of 2015.
74.9% percent of them are Jews (about 6,336,000 individuals),
20.7% are Arab (about 1,757,400 individuals), while the remaining
4.4% (about 370,000 individuals) are defined as "others" (including family members of Jewish immigrants who are not registered at the Ministry of Interior as Jews, non-Arab Christians, non-Arab Muslims and residents who do not have an ethnic or religious classification).

==================================

They must all work together for the country to thrive. They SEEMED to do that when we went there a few years ago. However, I do know that things change.

31 posted on 06/15/2016 5:52:39 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Freelance Warrior
Nice photos of Russia.
I could find nice photos of Vietnam, Cambodia, Nepal, China, Rwanda and any third world sewer in the world.

But, thanks anyway for the mini-trip. You are welcome to go and live there. I prefer this wonderful country.
Большое спасибо

32 posted on 06/15/2016 5:59:17 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
ou are welcome to go and live there. I prefer this wonderful country.

I meant just a visit :)

33 posted on 06/15/2016 11:33:46 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior
I meant just a visit :)

:o) Whew.

34 posted on 06/16/2016 7:14:28 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
What better way for a Soviet/Russian spy to become a sole national citizen of the US instead of having a dual citizenship with Russia.

I was thinking the opposite, what better way for a Western spy to gain access to the Russian Federation than to show up with an old expired Soviet passport and claim Russian citizenship?

35 posted on 06/16/2016 8:09:54 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

What Western spy? Our last known successful American spy who penetrated the Kremlin was Morris Childs, a former Soviet operative/Communist Party USA secret leader from Illinois/Chicago, etc (See: John Barron, “Operation SOLO” re America’s man in the Kremlin and Havana, about 1995.

We have been incredibly inept in penetrating the Soviet Union, Red China, No. Vietnam, No. Korea or even Cuba.


36 posted on 06/16/2016 3:18:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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