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Uncovering the Biases in State-Level Polling Data
American Thinker ^ | June 16, 2016 | Sierra Rayne

Posted on 06/15/2016 11:55:17 PM PDT by detective

In addition to clear polling bias against GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump at the national level, we see the same pro-liberal bias within the state data. It's not just in places like Utah, but all across the nation.

The problem is so deep and widespread that only fools would attempt to average the datasets to assess the actual mood of the electorate. All of this data needs to be corrected prior to averaging, and if that is done, it becomes abundantly clear that Trump is likely leading Hillary Clinton by at least several points at the national level, and statewide data is shaping up consistent with a possible Trump landslide.

One polling firm consistently reported on the RealClearPolitics poll tracker is Public Policy Polling (PPP), whose data could provide some useful insights into the American experience, but which appears to have an anti-Trump bias this cycle due to demographic deficiencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; clinton; polls; trump
Have you heard about the polls that the media report on that show Trump losing.

They are biased. They are flawed. they are fake.

1 posted on 06/15/2016 11:55:18 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

We said that last time too. I hope it’s true but the presidency doesn’t just drop in your lap. You have to do certain things right.

Right now it appears Trump won’t get the RNC ad support he needs, he doesn’t have a good get out the vote organization, he’s being undercut by his own party. It will not be easy to win like this.


2 posted on 06/16/2016 12:08:47 AM PDT by Williams (Dear God please save us from the democrats. And the republicans.)
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To: Williams

How did Romney do with those things?

Trump has the people.


3 posted on 06/16/2016 12:17:59 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: detective
2012 deja vu. All the polls showing Obama ahead, everyone here screaming bias. Obama wins. Whoops. Here are a couple classics.

CNN Poll: Obama up six points over Romney (scam poll)

No Bounce For Romney In Florida [Biased PPP Polling?]

EDITORIAL: Rigging the polls

Instead of bitching about the polls, which are looking pretty bad, go take take the time to try and help Trump. Make a call, go engage in a nice way on twitter/reddit/facebook. Denying that this is a huge uphill battle is extremely counterproductive.The race is winnable, but not with everyone's head in the sand.

4 posted on 06/16/2016 12:48:12 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: detective

National horse race polls are horse manure at this time.. Each election has its own dynamic. Last time, people didn’t turn out the way many thought they would. This is what I call, “The Shrinking Romney” effect. Hurricane Sandy, a freak storm, sent Romney into hiding. Trump is no Romney, and the arguments in the article are valid. It is important to note Trump will have challenges like RNCe not campaigning. But Trump’s computer databases of voters will have a backup so voters can be gotten to the polls. Did Soros’ have his boyz hack Romney’s computers? Methinks that Trump is well versed in methods of massive voter fraud like took place on places like Ohio Pennsylvania and elsewhere. Naysayers may say we who complain about poll bias are whistling in the dark, but I have done similar analysis of the numbers coming out this year and have come to many of the same conclusions as this author. As the year progresses we can debias the polls and will have a Trump victory even with a 2-3 % Dem turnout advantage, if it turns out like that. I am not so sure that the turnout won’t be closer to even due to the enthusiasm difference


5 posted on 06/16/2016 1:36:05 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: MrShoop

Seems to me the author makes a very good case of bias against Trump. The Bloomberg poll is a fraud; it is controlled by one man and the fact that they refuse to release the data tells you everything you need to know.


6 posted on 06/16/2016 1:50:29 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: MaxistheBest
I know the case sounds good. It sounded good in 2012 too. This is a 100% retread of the 2012 theories, which ended up being BS. Romney actually underperformed slightly compared to the polling. Read this from Rush Limbaugh in 2012, and tell me it isn't American Wishfulthinker...

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/09/26/don_t_let_bogus_polls_depress_you

7 posted on 06/16/2016 2:24:32 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop
I know the case sounds good. It sounded good in 2012 too. This is a 100% retread of the 2012 theories, which ended up being BS. Romney actually underperformed slightly compared to the polling. Read this from Rush Limbaugh in 2012, and tell me it isn't American Wishfulthinker...

The salient difference is that comparing the same tiem frames, Trump is way out-performing Romney and the current events that have occurred, with the MSM/Dems?GOPe, etc., all ganging up for a "Blitz Trump" spree - the sad part is those that help them by buying into the propaganda w/o bothering to analyze any of the current factors.

If Trump loses, it's because the People have gone so mushy in the head that we don't deserve to be a Free Nation any more.

8 posted on 06/16/2016 3:48:51 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Williams

Trump will probably benefit if the likes of the Bush Dynasty and Romney don’t embrace his candidacy. A real strong talking point against hillary and for Trump is that these mostly despised pols would rather see her as president than Trump. It’s a real strong selling point with Sanders voters, who have been abandoned.


9 posted on 06/16/2016 3:53:37 AM PDT by grania
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To: detective

Polls based on turnout models this far out are suspect for sure. This election year will be no different than others. People will cite polls that support their viewpoint and vilify those that don’t. No crowd does it better than FR.

The bias I see in the polls is in the questions. Many pool are still looking at favorable/unfavorable ratings for Clinton and Trump. These questions produce results within the same poll that contradict each other and are then used to foretell an election outcome. At this point, there is only one line of question that is relevant. You voting for Trump, Clinton or staying home?


10 posted on 06/16/2016 4:05:36 AM PDT by IamConservative (There is no greater threat to our freedoms than Bipartisanship.)
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To: detective

Facts aside, Sierra Rayne is a stripper’s name, or worse.


11 posted on 06/16/2016 7:56:15 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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