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TWA 800: Calling Agent Bongardt, Your Nation Needs You
American Thinker ^ | August 3, 2016 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 08/03/2016 9:49:25 AM PDT by Kaslin

It has been four weeks since my book, TWA 800: The Crash, The Cover-Up, The Conspiracy, debuted. Despite a two-week media hiatus due to the conventions, I continue to receive one or two new leads a day, many from inside the investigation.

I would encourage those with information to share to contact me in confidence through my website, Cashill.com. As one new source told me, he never knew before where to turn. Another, a retired international captain, said I was the first person in the media to listen to him after years of trying to break through.

As a quick reminder, TWA Flight 800 blew up off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996. A few weeks ago, I received an email from a fellow that, in a fairer world, would have been newsworthy in itself. Joe Johnson worked with the FBI missile team on the investigation as an industry partner. He concluded his initial email with the compelling line, “It would be better if we had a chat on the phone. I can prove that it was a missile.”

In the course of our subsequent conversations, Johnson laid out the evidence to support a missile strike: the motion correction for small guidance errors, the smooth turn toward the target at intercept, the resistance of Jet A fuel to a spark, and for Johnson, most significantly, the radar data that showed “debris exiting the aircraft at a supersonic velocity.” In the excellent 2103 documentary, TWA Flight 800, physicist Tom Stalcup considered that radar data “the smoking gun.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cia; clinton; fbi; foilwatch; twa800
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1 posted on 08/03/2016 9:49:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

So what missle? From where? Why? Military Accident? What is the alternative theory? It is suggested that there was a cover up. Then the government had something to hide.

So which is the conspiracy theory?


2 posted on 08/03/2016 9:59:21 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Kaslin

“In all, he cited some thirty “problem witnesses” whose accounts did not begin to square with the “agency scenario.” In his conclusion, this agent hit the CIA hard. He recommended that the CIA “withdraw its conclusions” until it could meet several conditions, any one of which would have unraveled the CIA scenario. These included the integration of radar data, the validation of key witnesses, and the reconciliation of the thirty “problem witnesses” with the zoom climb scenario.”

That term “problem witnesses”, and that they would be subject to CIA “reconciliation”, are a little creepy, huh.


3 posted on 08/03/2016 10:02:19 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Swordmaker

PING


4 posted on 08/03/2016 10:04:55 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician, any politician, just say, "Remember Ceaucescu"))
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To: Kaslin
For people digging into the TWA800 Coverup HERE is an interesting related link from 1999.
5 posted on 08/03/2016 10:05:09 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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To: Kaslin

I do not know what brought TWA 800 down. I do know the zoom climb the CIA described is totally aeronautical fiction. That was a lie. My question is why did they lie.


6 posted on 08/03/2016 10:07:20 AM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND ROUGHNECK MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN , CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Kaslin

“If the American people knew that terrorists could shoot down an airliner just off our coast, they would all quit flying. That would really hurt our economy.”

“Yeah, and it would kill us Democrats in the election.”

“Yep. I guess this is just another one of those national security secrets that also benefit us Democrats in the elections. Hahahahahahaha!”


7 posted on 08/03/2016 10:08:25 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Tenacious 1
What is a missle?

You need to get back a lot further than this article to get it, and what you are talking about? Our military had nothing to do with this but a certain president from the time did.

8 posted on 08/03/2016 10:12:41 AM PDT by Kaslin (He neededAwesome the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

Does the air traffic control radar have the capability to determine the debris is moving at supersonic speed?


9 posted on 08/03/2016 10:13:58 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: cpdiii

Why was the CIA involved at all?

Was it because they were the only agency equipped to lie publicly, on a large scale? (for national security purposes and the defeat of the terrorists, of course)


10 posted on 08/03/2016 10:14:25 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Kaslin

Strong book. Cashill doesn’t go any further with speculation than the evidence allows.

He doesn’t say where a missile came from. He just says the eyewitness testimony is overwhelming (56 direct eyewitnesses) saw a missile.


11 posted on 08/03/2016 10:14:57 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: JohnnyP

“Does the air traffic control radar have the capability to determine the debris is moving at supersonic speed?”

Yes, assuming the debris is within the range and view of the radar.


12 posted on 08/03/2016 10:15:21 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: cpdiii

There were witnesses who saw the plane brought down by a missile and I remember seeing the live report on TV


13 posted on 08/03/2016 10:17:56 AM PDT by Kaslin (He neededAwesome the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Tenacious 1

There was definitely a conspiracy, and it involved Kallstrom among others. The CIA took over a flight “accident” before there was any evidence at all it involved terrorism. FBI took over from FAA and NTSB and completely controlled the chains of evidence.

The missile had to come from a ship. 800 was out of range of a shoulder-fired missile.

So that leaves either a terrorist boat or a US surface ship or sub. He finds a P-3 Orion hovering right above the area, where, just two weeks earlier, they conducted a missile exercise. That’s all he says.


14 posted on 08/03/2016 10:18:05 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Tenacious 1
So what missle?

Don't know.

From where?

Iran.

Why?

Former Iranian Republican guard soldiers turned mercenaries hired by a wealthy Iranian family to avenge the death of their family members killed in the 1988 Iran Air flight 655 shoot down by the USS Vincennes.

Military Accident?

No. Deliberate act of revenge.

It is suggested that there was a cover up.

I know someone who was involved in this coverup. Absolutely it was a coverup. Clinton was running for reelection. The very last thing he wanted was to deal with a War with Iran just before an election. Another factor was the disastrous effect on Air Travel that announcing the truth would cause.

Then the government had something to hide.

Clinton did.

15 posted on 08/03/2016 10:21:17 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: CodeToad; JohnnyP

I would think the only way ATC radar could determine the speed of debris is if the debris is moving directly towards or away from the radar, and it monitored the Doppler shift of the radar return, and even then only if the explosion occurred immediately before the radar painted the target.

I wouldn’t think ATC radars would do speed determination via doppler shift; that would only show speed relative to the radar station. Speed would be actually determined by a dx/dt calculation.


16 posted on 08/03/2016 10:29:57 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Very good explanation.

dx/dt would require painting the target again on the next rotation of the antenna. By then drag has slowed the debris.


17 posted on 08/03/2016 10:35:48 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: LS

Kallstrom was doing a good job until the ubiquitous Asst. Atty. Gen. Jamie Gorelick called him to Washington for a heart-to-heart. His 180 came as Jamie let the door hit him on the way out. Enter Richard Clarke and the CIA video fantasy.


18 posted on 08/03/2016 10:45:29 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik

Yeah, that’s pretty much what Cashill says.


19 posted on 08/03/2016 10:50:08 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: DuncanWaring

Since most ATC primary radars have a 6 second internal, they wouldn’t be very helpful for something that far off the coast.


20 posted on 08/03/2016 10:51:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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