Posted on 08/28/2016 6:08:17 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister
The United States could be on the verge of posthumously awarding its highest military honor to a soldier who was killed in action in Afghanistan – and the news is stirring controversy.
Sgt. John Chapman, an air force technician who was serving as a radioman for the elite SEAL Team 6 during mission in Afghanistan, died in fierce combat against Al Qaeda gunmen on an Afghan mountaintop on March 4, 2002.
The Americans led a coalition of nations in the military effort to destroy Al Qaeda and the Taliban following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
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I don’t see his actions on the level of a MOH.
He was fighting for survival and killed two bad guys.
Maybe a silver star.
Flame away.
I'm sure this happened a lot and probably still does but rarely did you ever get postumous battlefield video showing such results of a decision made in the heat of the battle. Wonder how that SEAL commander is dealing with knowing the results of his decision? This heroes death isn't his fault, that's on Al Queda, but it must tear him up regardless.
Not getting into that debate with you about what level of medal he should be given. What irritates me is the guy being called an air force technician. If he was doing ops with the Seals he was himself a special ops guy, either an elite Pararescue guy, or more likely an elite Air Combat Controller. These guys go through more brutal training than the seals... I am Marine Corps, so I have no dog in the fight... just sayin’
He’s already received an Air Force Cross for his actions that day, so the Air Force clearly saw it differently. The question is should he be upgraded to the Medal of Honor because of this new information.
None of this noise detracts from the bravery of this man. RIP.
So the brave SEALs looked out for each other, but cut and ran leaving the Air Force guy behind?
Consolation prize for a really bad call. Stuff happens, and war is hell. RIP.
Why guess or speculate on something important?
The President of the United States of America, authorized by Title 10, Section 8742, U.S.C., awards the Air Force Cross to TSgt John Chapman for extraordinary heroism in military operation against an armed enemy of the United States as a 24th Special Tactics Squadron, Combat Controller in the vicinity of Gardez, in the eastern highlands of Afghanistan, on 4 March 2002. On this date, during his helicopter insertion for a reconnaissance and time sensitive targeting close air support mission, Sergeant Chapman’s aircraft came under heavy machine gun fire and received a direct hit from a rocket propelled grenade which caused a United States Navy sea-air-land team member to fall from the aircraft. Though heavily damaged, the aircraft egressed the area and made an emergency landing seven kilometers away. Once on the ground Sergeant Chapman established communication with an AC-130 gunship to insure the area was secure while providing close air support coverage for the entire team. He then directed the gunship to begin the search for the missing team member. He requested, coordinated, and controlled the helicopter that extracted the stranded team and aircrew members. These actions limited the exposure of the aircrew and team to hostile fire. Without regard for his own life Sergeant Chapman volunteered to rescue his missing team member from an enemy strong hold. Shortly after insertion, the team made contact with the enemy. Sergeant Chapman engaged and killed two enemy personnel. He continued to advance reaching the enemy position then engaged a second enemy position, a dug-in machine gun nest. At this time the rescue team came under effective enemy fire from three directions. From close range he exchanged fire with the enemy from minimum personal cover until he succumbed to multiple wounds. His engagement and destruction of the first enemy position and advancement on the second position enabled his team to move to cover and break enemy contact. In his own words, his Navy sea-air-land team leader credits Sergeant Chapman unequivocally with saving the lives of the entire rescue team. Through his extraordinary heroism, superb airmanship, aggressiveness in the face of the enemy, and the dedication to the service of his country, Sergeant Chapman reflects the highest credit upon himself and the United States Air Force.
He was *not* a PJ -
Sergeant Chapman was a Special Tactics Combat Controller, 24th Special Tactics Squadron, Operational Team-Red, Pope Air Force Base, North Carolina.
Men like this are why we stand up for our flag
Just sayin’, Colon
“Heroics” is a derogatory term.
The correct term in this case is “heroism.”
Also, from what I have read it appears he was exposing himself to fire instead of remaining more safely in the bunker he had taken over in order to provide fire in support of another helicopter trying to land in the area when he was killed. At that point he had already been shot multiple times, and killed the two guys who attacked his position in the bunker.
I'm no expert in what qualifies for the Medal of Honor, but this guy's actions seem to be in that territory.
He’s already received an Air Force Cross for his actions that day, so the Air Force clearly saw it differently. The question is should he be upgraded to the Medal of Honor because of this new information.
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Only one Air Force E.M. has ever received the C.M.O.H. and the Air Force fought tooth and nail against him receiving it posthumously. A U.S. Army Sgt. who witnessed his heroics petitioned Congress for years on his behalf before he received it.
The U.S. Air Force was (is) of the opinion that only brave pilots (officers) should receive it.
Only one Air Force E.M. has ever received the C.M.O.H. and the Air Force fought tooth and nail against him receiving it posthumously. A U.S. Army Sgt. who witnessed his heroics petitioned Congress for years on his behalf before he received it.
The U.S. Air Force was (is) of the opinion that only brave pilots (officers) should receive it.
Only one Air Force E.M. has ever received the C.M.O.H. and the Air Force fought tooth and nail against him receiving it posthumously. A U.S. Army Sgt. who witnessed his heroics petitioned Congress for years on his behalf before he received it.
The U.S. Air Force was (is) of the opinion that only brave pilots (officers) should receive it.
Only one Air Force E.M. has ever received the C.M.O.H. and the Air Force fought tooth and nail against him receiving it posthumously. A U.S. Army Sgt. who witnessed his heroics petitioned Congress for years on his behalf before he received it.
The U.S. Air Force was (is) of the opinion that only brave pilots (officers) should receive it.
It was not posthumously.
It's rarely pointed out but Carter's blanket pardon of the draft dodgers applies to Bubba! Thus he's one of only two US presidents to receive a presidential pardon (along with Ford's pardon of Nixon) and the only one to receive his pardon before running for the office.
Methinks the Clintons wouldn't like having this pointed out, so I suggest questioning Hillary along these lines: "Mrs. Clinton, early in your career you worked to bring justice to President Nixon for Watergate. What did you think when President Ford pardoned him? [pause for Rat boilerplate answer] Did you ever expect that the very next President would pardon your husband?!"
If Trump wins and presses enough about prosecuting the many Clinton scandals maybe Obama will be giving them a joint pardon, giving Bill the record.
Obama maybe. But, to say Gary or Randy were undeserving under Clinton is silly.
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