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WY: Bear Spray to be Required for Grizzly Bear Hunts?
ammoland ^ | 11 November, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/16/2016 8:42:42 AM PST by marktwain

Grizzly Bear

Dave Smith, a well known author and expert on bear attacks, sent me a heads up on a proposed Grizzly hunting regulation.  In the  Wyoming Grizzly Bear Management Plan(pdf), on page 47, (page 55 on some pdf versions), dated  5/11/2016, is a regulation requiring that grizzly hunters carry bear spray.

“All grizzly bear hunters must carry bear spray while engaged in the act of grizzly bear hunting (WGFC Regulation Chapter 16, pending)”

When you are hunting bears, you would normally be carrying a rifle.  You would have to drop the rifle, then access and deploy the bear spray.  That does not work. Nearly all bear spray successes have been during use by unarmed people. One of the foremost proponents of bear spray has said that it would be crazy to attempt to use bear spray against a charging grizzly when you were carrying a rifle. From hcn.org:

Here’s the problem, according to Brigham Young University professor Tom Smith. In an interview with Sports Afield, he said, “If I’m actually out hunting and I have a gun in my hands, and suddenly a bear comes at me, do you think I’m going to lay the gun down and pick up bear spray? Are you out of your mind?”


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: banglist; bear; bearspray; wy
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Forcing hunters to carry bear spray while they are attempting to kill bears is not well thought out.
1 posted on 11/16/2016 8:42:42 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Having had a buck jump up twenty feet away while my drawers were around my ankles and my rifle leaning against a stump a few feet away, I’m not so sure this is a bad idea.


2 posted on 11/16/2016 8:45:49 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

You’re supposed to drop your gun and spray them? What an idiot.


3 posted on 11/16/2016 8:48:39 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: marktwain

Obviously, I don’t hunt Grizlies. But I do think a Desert Eagle in .50 AE is a better answer than bear spray.


4 posted on 11/16/2016 8:48:39 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute
More effective than bear spray:


5 posted on 11/16/2016 8:50:41 AM PST by Rebelbase (Make no mistake. It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning--Doc Holiday)
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To: Rebelbase

Not a fan of wheel guns but that one does have some appeal!


6 posted on 11/16/2016 8:52:13 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Rebelbase

If I shot one of those, my wrist would snap in two. I’m old and skinny!


7 posted on 11/16/2016 8:52:20 AM PST by refermech
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To: marktwain

“Forcing hunters to carry bear spray while they are attempting to kill bears is not well thought out.”

yes it is ... it creates fewer hunters


8 posted on 11/16/2016 8:53:02 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: marktwain

Bear Spray is an excellent repellant for violent never Trumpers.

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=10842462


9 posted on 11/16/2016 9:00:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: wastoute

#2 <-(ha, get it #2) If a bear had killed you while you were in that ah... position then the ranger would think you were reenacting the movie scene of Leo DiCaprio where he was raped by a bear.... : )

Bear spray = spraying lead at the bear!


10 posted on 11/16/2016 9:01:55 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: wastoute

Are you my cousin Dave? Same thing happened to him.


11 posted on 11/16/2016 9:04:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Elections have consequences." Barack Obama)
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True, but it probably doesn't say how much bear spray you need to carry. I'd just put a little squirt in a baggie and if the rangers show up you can say "I'm carrying bear spray, here it is".
12 posted on 11/16/2016 9:20:19 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: wastoute
Obviously, I don’t hunt Grizlies. But I do think a Desert Eagle in .50 AE is a better answer than bear spray.

If I'm hiking or picking huckleberries, I would agree. If I'm hunting grizzly bears, I'm already carrying a .300 or .338 mag rifle. A pistol or bear spray is unnecessary. The rifle would be the weapon of choice until either I or the bear goes down.

13 posted on 11/16/2016 9:33:11 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of incompetence and corruption.)
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To: marktwain

Reminds me of the Bear country warning sign about bear poop smelling like pepper spray and having bells in it.


14 posted on 11/16/2016 9:39:36 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Freedom Trumps Fascism)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Sounds like the Pentagons rules for engagement.


15 posted on 11/16/2016 9:41:16 AM PST by boomop1 (Term limits is the only way to change this failed government.)
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To: marktwain

I actually think this makes sense and it’s because of Murphy’s Law. There will be someone out there who drops or loses their gun. This gives them something to fall back on rather than becoming dinner.


16 posted on 11/16/2016 9:42:44 AM PST by colorado tanker
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Before you go into Griz country, learn about them. Before I worked at Yellowstone I had to read Bear Attacks, which led me to more information.

http://www.tetonhikingtrails.com/grand-teton-national-park-bears.htm


17 posted on 11/16/2016 9:47:05 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: mad_as_he$$

No, but I will say, my buddy and I had quite a time. All three of us (the buck, too) were freaking out, running in circles. We both emptied our rifles. It didn’t end well for the buck!


18 posted on 11/16/2016 9:54:31 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Loud Mime

I recommend:

Bear attacks

The Deadly Truth

by James Gary Shelton

https://www.amazon.com/Bear-Attacks-James-Gary-Shelton/dp/0969809913

Stephen Herrero has been pushing bear spray, with some less than well done analysis.


19 posted on 11/16/2016 9:58:36 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I don’t know the rationale for the regulation but I would imagine that it may be intended to save the lives of bears that the hunter encounters but did not intend on harvesting (i.e. juveniles, sows with cubs, or black bears). I can’t say that I would TRY bear spray before a gun if I really felt threatened, but the spray could drive away an unwanted intrusive bear before it becomes a threat.


20 posted on 11/16/2016 10:45:38 AM PST by kaboom
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