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G.O.P. Plans Immediate Repeal of Health Law, Then a Delay
NYT's ^ | 12/2/16 | ROBERT PEAR, JENNIFER STEINHAUER and THOMAS KAPLAN

Posted on 12/04/2016 6:57:03 AM PST by ColdOne

WASHINGTON — Republicans in Congress plan to move almost immediately next month to repeal the Affordable Care Act, as President-elect Donald J. Trump promised. But they also are likely to delay the effective date so that they have several years to phase out President Obama’s signature achievement.

This emerging “repeal and delay” strategy, which Speaker Paul D. Ryan discussed this week with Vice President-elect Mike Pence, underscores a growing recognition that replacing the health care law will be technically complicated and could be politically explosive.

Since the law was signed by Mr. Obama in March 2010, 20 million uninsured people have gained coverage, and the law has become deeply embedded in the nation’s health care system, accepted with varying degrees of enthusiasm by consumers, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and state and local governments.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 114th; congress; obamacare; repealandreplace; ryan; trump; trumpagenda
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1 posted on 12/04/2016 6:57:03 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

The dems and the media will start the scare tactics right away.


2 posted on 12/04/2016 6:59:27 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: ColdOne
This emerging “repeal and delay” strategy,... underscores a growing recognition that replacing the health care law will be technically complicated and could be politically explosive.

More gaslighting BS. NYT pushing the tiny minority view as if it is a view shared by a majority.

3 posted on 12/04/2016 7:03:17 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: I want the USA back

What the hell with all this replacement speak?? The free market is the replacement.


4 posted on 12/04/2016 7:04:12 AM PST by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: ColdOne

Health-care industry stocks soared and my investments in them soared when Obamacare was passed.

As I’ve stated before, the ULTIMATE END GAME WITH OBAMACARE with copays and increased costs for people with health insurance, with manadatory purchasing of health insurance, taxes for people without health insurance, increased funding for Medicaid for the poor etc. WAS TO INCREASE CASH FLOW INTO HOSPITALS MANY OF WHICH ARE MERGED INTO BIG CORPORATIONS TO MAKE PROFITS.

Mitt Romney, who originated the first Obamacare program in Massachusetts, said ‘freeloaders’ were showing up at hospitals. The health care industry had costs which needed to be bailed out.

The GOP Establishment doesn’t want to hurt those who were having the money sent their way because of Obamacare.


5 posted on 12/04/2016 7:04:34 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: ColdOne
and the law has become deeply embedded in the nation’s health care system, accepted with varying degrees of enthusiasm by consumers, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and state and local governments.

I see. Everyone is 'enthused', it's just a question of degree.

6 posted on 12/04/2016 7:06:27 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: ColdOne

As long as the mandate becomes null and void on the date it is “repealed”, I’m happy.

Will the repeal have an “effective date” built into the wording? If not, anything mandated to anyone in the original law becomes unenforceable.


7 posted on 12/04/2016 7:06:28 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: ColdOne
This is bravo sierra. My wife and I are retired. Our supplemental insurance that covers the 80% of the 20% not covered by Medicare just had a premium increase of 31%. And, from what I hear, that is cheap compared to some peoples experience.

Many female retirees who just have portion of their the husband's benefits are not able to even afford supplemental insureance.

8 posted on 12/04/2016 7:08:39 AM PST by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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To: ColdOne

There has to be winners and losers in any major transformation, especially something that is as universally influential as health-care funding. I wouldn’t be surprised if this strategy is a means of immediately mollifying those (justifiably) dissatisfied with Obamacare, while delaying the blowback for those adversely affected until after the 2018 mid-terms (at which time the GOP would have at least a mathematical chance to get a filibuster-proof Senate).


9 posted on 12/04/2016 7:09:30 AM PST by Stosh
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The New York Times has no earthly idea of what Trump is going to do...They know nothing, but have to devise something to print...

There is more truth on a blank sheet of paper than in the whole NYT....


10 posted on 12/04/2016 7:10:13 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: VRW Conspirator
The one legitimate complication that comes to mind is that people have already signed up for coverage that takes them well into 2017 if not through the entire year.

If Congress simply eliminates the employer mandate and the individual mandate, then they've solved 95% of the problem.

11 posted on 12/04/2016 7:10:44 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Nextrush

And Trump is going to have to enforce existing anti-trust law to break the medical cartels in order to truly fix health care. That will cause huge campaign funding problems for many GOP politicians. Tough.


12 posted on 12/04/2016 7:11:02 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: ColdOne

Grrrr.
Repeal Obamacare.
Pass targeted narrow fixes for systemic problems (pre-existing conditions, inexpensive catastrophic coverage, individual purchase, allow interstate commerce for insurance).
Done. Market will fix the rest.


13 posted on 12/04/2016 7:12:02 AM PST by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: ColdOne

I dispute the 20 people have gained coverage claim.


14 posted on 12/04/2016 7:13:15 AM PST by exnavy (this tagline under construction, pardon our dust!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“medical cartels”, no it is government meddling, and over regulation that drive up costs.


15 posted on 12/04/2016 7:15:41 AM PST by exnavy (this tagline under construction, pardon our dust!)
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To: ColdOne

Follow the money and spot the alligators. There’s so much swamp to drain.
However, if they fail to get that repeal up and running the executive discretion written into the law will allow Trump to completely gut it before they can shore up their place at the trough.


16 posted on 12/04/2016 7:15:45 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: patro

That’s the replacement. Hopefully along with tort reform.


17 posted on 12/04/2016 7:17:20 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: I want the USA back

I agree you cannot repeal and replace on day one. OBamacare was not put in place on day one either.

Repeal so that it is no longer a law. THere are a few concrete steps that can be taken day one and some that will have to play out over a couple of years. People who are currently on Obamacare plans need time to find alternatives. Need to pass laws allowing competition across state lines. THey need to set up catastrophic pools to cover those with most serious illnesses to hold down cost for average consumers. Etc.

Most important is to kill the current law on books while we have momentum and majority.


18 posted on 12/04/2016 7:18:00 AM PST by georgiarat (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Volttaire)
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To: exnavy

I’m surprised they didn’t claim 20 million people.../s


19 posted on 12/04/2016 7:19:03 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through you're anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: ColdOne
Since the law was signed by Mr. Obama in March 2010, 20 million uninsured people have gained coverage,

Yeah, and even more have lost their coverage.

and the law has become deeply embedded in the nation’s health care system,

and the law has become deeply embedded in the nation's tax system. There. Fixed it.

accepted with varying degrees of enthusiasm by consumers, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and state and local governments.

HA! Talk about putting lipstick on a pig. The NYT also put a lacy bra and crotchless panties on it.

20 posted on 12/04/2016 7:24:16 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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