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Stein switches tactics in Pennsylvania recount drive (Filing in Federal Court)
Yahoo News ^ | December 4, 2016 | Staff

Posted on 12/04/2016 8:03:34 AM PST by bobsunshine

Former Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein switched tactics in her campaign to force a recount in Pennsylvania, one of three battleground states won by Donald Trump where she has challenged the results.

The party dropped a bid to pursue the recount in a state court, citing difficulties raising a million dollar bond demanded by the tribunal. It said it would instead press on in federal court and file suit Monday.

That was also Stein's deadline for raising the bond money.

"Make no mistake -— the Stein campaign will continue to fight for a statewide recount in Pennsylvania," attorney Jonathan Abady said in a statement.

"Over the past several days, it has become clear that the barriers to verifying the vote in Pennsylvania are so pervasive and that the state court system is so ill-equipped to address this problem that we must seek federal court intervention," Abady said.

"Petitioners are regular citizens of ordinary means. They cannot afford to post the $1,000,000 bond required by the court," read a filing submitted earlier in the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, announcing the state court drive was being dropped.

Stein plans to hold a rally on Monday across the street from Trump Tower in New York "vowing to fight tooth and nail to verify the accuracy, security and fairness of the vote," a statement read.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: jillstein; norefunds; recount; stein; trump
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To: SetFree

I see a lot of posts and articles on the web stating that Stein has no standing and how can she possibly think she can win. But it appears some are missing what I believe is the point of this whole charade - to postpone or prevent one or more states from filing their EV. This way Hillary and Dems can claim Trump isn’t America’s President. I know Trump doesn’t care what the Media or Dems say, but for the average American, the Stein maneuvers cause a lot of chaos.

I know the Trump lawyers are looking at this very carefully, but if this goes to the Supreme Court, more delays. Eventually it will turn out ok, but still there is cause for some concern that Clinton will “pad” the ballot box - somehow. Hopefully MI gets thrown out and WI ends up with Trump getting more votes.

One area that I’ve been looking at is Nevada. The third party candidate filed a petition and some counties are in full recount (esp. Clark county - Las Vegas). If he can get 17 votes (1 %) in the recount, there is an automatic statewide recount. Wouldn’t that be interesting since Hillary won the state by only 20,000 votes or so.


41 posted on 12/04/2016 9:12:45 AM PST by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

Would it have cost less if she hadn’t missed the recount deadline on purpose?


42 posted on 12/04/2016 9:12:45 AM PST by funfan
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To: GOPJ

She doesn’t care about the voters at all that is why she is trying to steal the election and disenfranchise those who voted fro Mr. Trump.


43 posted on 12/04/2016 9:14:35 AM PST by funfan
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To: Alas Babylon!
The real motive behind this is all about 2020 now.

We'll know Hillary has finally given up on 2016 when she starts going on all the talk shows, giving interviews, lecturing America for being racist and having been duped by Russia. Until then, she's still laying low hoping one of their many election stealing approaches pans out somehow.

44 posted on 12/04/2016 9:18:46 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: bobsunshine

If the strategy is not a recount but a delay so that the PA electors will not be counted because of the coming federal deadline, all she needs is a left wing federal judge to bless the sabotage. If by chance such as this reaches the high court the issue might find a a deadlocked 4 to 4 court since Assoc. Justice Scalia was found dead with a pillow over his face


45 posted on 12/04/2016 9:20:19 AM PST by stagline
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To: bobsunshine

Is she behind the request/suit for recount in Florida? The article I read said Green Party, but did not have her name in it.


46 posted on 12/04/2016 9:26:33 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: funfan

You’re right.


47 posted on 12/04/2016 9:36:16 AM PST by GOPJ ("Draining the Swamp" means dumping corrupt liberal elites...Jeremy Peters does NOT speak for us.)
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To: bobsunshine
"it has become clear that the barriers to verifying the vote in
Pennsylvania are so pervasive and that the state court system is so
ill-equipped to address this problem"


Bite me Commie...this 'ill-equipped' system was set up to prevent exactly
what Marxists of your ilk are currently attempting: to subvert to will of the
voters of Pennsylvania.
48 posted on 12/04/2016 9:36:17 AM PST by major_gaff (University of Parris Island, Class of '84)
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To: bobsunshine

Never mind the facts that she missed well known in state PA recount deadlines to start with.

She also cannot provide any prima facia evidence of fraud or tabulation error as PA laws require for their state courts to order a statewide recount.

The state of Pennsylvania has done nothing unconstitutional or illegal in regards to her recount/challenge petition and she cannot provide any evidence the state is acting unconstitutionally in any way.

I predict her case will get tossed out of Federal court since there are no federal issues in play and she cannot provide evidence of fraud or error that would justify a statewide recount.

Also she still had options of appeal at the state level she didn’t pursue like tomorrow’s cancelled PA state court hearing. The $1 million dollar bond she was required to out up is part of PA state law. Federal courts don’t usually like to intervene in state issues to begin with but usually require you exhaust all legal options at the state level before they even consider intervening!!


49 posted on 12/04/2016 9:42:13 AM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: JPJones

Or just using the issue to raise another million or two from Soros and the other butthurt suckers giving her $$$ knowing full well their case will get tossed! I haven’t even heard which Federal Judge they will be appearing before. Even an Obama judge may likely dismiss based on their lack of evidence of any wrongdoing and their missing deadlines


50 posted on 12/04/2016 9:46:37 AM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: DouglasKC

Absolutely correct. If Stein wasn’t a Clintoon suck up, she would hold her rally in front of the DNC headquarters, instead of the Trump Tower.


51 posted on 12/04/2016 9:47:07 AM PST by davidb56
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To: bobsunshine

Trump should come out and tie her directly to Hillary

No way she picks these 3 states on her own

She doesn’t have the support force to be using these tactics without Hillary’s people controlling the strategy


52 posted on 12/04/2016 9:47:33 AM PST by uncbob
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To: bobsunshine

IMPORTANT: MI electoral votes are safe!

Current update below from Michigan from a redditor in the_donald called MAGA_trump (an obvious Trump insider).

There was a hearing this hour in federal court where Jill Stein was trying to get the MI recount going and it just got thrown out. Yesterday the state of Michigan certified its electors and sent them to Congress but there was a slim chance Jill Stein could get a federal judge to start a recount and it was DENIED. Michigan’s electoral votes are safe for Trump.

MAGA_trump said (10 minutes ago):

“Case gets tossed. MI rule in favor of the AG Tuesday. Electoral votes certified. Done. “


53 posted on 12/04/2016 9:55:10 AM PST by plushaye (Welcomed to Heaven by His friend and Savior Jesus - Prophet Kim Clement (1956-2016))
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To: InterceptPoint

Once again we see the bad consequences of the USSC agreeing to hear Bush v. Gore.


54 posted on 12/04/2016 9:59:05 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: plushaye

Sorry I misinterpreted. Ignore the above, which was MAGA_trumps opinion on how the ruling should go. Judge is deliberating but is sceptical. Ruling within the hour.

Oh, I wish for a delete button!!


55 posted on 12/04/2016 10:01:16 AM PST by plushaye (Welcomed to Heaven by His friend and Savior Jesus - Prophet Kim Clement (1956-2016))
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To: bobsunshine

Screaming Look-at-Me strikes again. Loathing does not begin to describe....


56 posted on 12/04/2016 10:06:15 AM PST by madison10 (#NeverHillarystein attempting to disenfranchise this Michigander)
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To: bobsunshine

Consider how many SJW snowflakes are living and dying with each bit of recount news right now. The Democrats don’t dare smash their hopes - they are still pissed off about Sanders and one more disappointment might drive them away permanently. They have to keep playing this until some authority finally and firmly tells them “NO” - then they can blame the authority for stopping the recounts and “selecting” Trump.


57 posted on 12/04/2016 10:08:15 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: bgill

She is desperate for attention, any kind of attention. She seems to have a history of smarmy, underhanded tactics, which just proves that she is missing the shame gene.

I don’t believe that this is about voter fraud. The Left knows that they corner that market. They aren’t even covert about it. In fact, they seem proud of it. If we really did check out voter fraud, the tally on their side would dwarf the negligible amount on ours. The morally bankrupt Left thinks that is only because we are naive, knuckle-dragging boobs who don’t know how to play the game. If they do manage to find some “evidence” of tampering, it will be manufactured by them, which bothers them not at all. You can’t prick a conscience that you don’t have.

I think the real reason this self centered, drama queen has hijacked the country’s emotional energy is to steal psychological momentum from Trump and keep our side insecure and unable to revel in our victory. Ultimately, it won’t work, but she’s got to do something to keep her mind off of what is coming. It has also got to be an amazing head trip for someone as inconsequential as her to be able to dim the election night smiles on our faces, if only for a time, and score points with the bawling snowflakes.

Hopefully, she is also keeping Obama’s mind off of how his filthy legacy is about to be blown to bits. He could still do a lot of damage in the time he has left.


58 posted on 12/04/2016 10:12:28 AM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: bobsunshine

Stein is going outside of established state law and trying in essence for a federal court to make a new law. Kind of like what the gay marriage advocates did. If the federal government can overturn state laws concerning elections in this case then there is no such thing as state elections anymore.


59 posted on 12/04/2016 10:15:01 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: bobsunshine

“The announcement that it would seek an emergency federal court order on Monday for a recount came hours after it dropped a case in the state courts.”

I would think pretty much any Federal court would immediately reject such a request because the issue isn’t ripe for Federal consideration since the plaintiff failed to exhaust all possible State remedies first.

Seeking a Federal court order at this point is nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt, certainly cheaper than actually following the actual Pennsylvania state law that requires a one million dollar bond to proceed, which would of course would be an EXPENSIVE publicity stunt.


60 posted on 12/04/2016 10:16:03 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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