Posted on 12/06/2016 3:51:56 PM PST by Olog-hai
In the wake of an election in which Hillary Clinton won the popular vote but Donald Trump was elected president by winning the Electoral College, a survey showed the lowest percentage of people ever in a Gallup poll saying they would support amending the Constitution to eliminate the Electoral College and decide presidential elections by the popular vote.
“This year, for the first time in the 49 years Gallup has asked about it, less than half of Americans want to replace the Electoral College with a popular vote system,” Gallup said in an analysis of its poll results.
Gallup’s latest poll on the issue, conducted November 28-29—three weeks after this year’s election—showed that 49 percent said they would amend the Constitution so that the nationwide populate vote would decide the presidential election. Forty-seven percent said they would keep the Electoral College system. …
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Thats also why so many senators are Dems.
More people took notice of what it is and how it works and its purpose than they did before as a result of all of the bellyaching over the non-existent “national popular vote”. This appears to have backfired on the liberals.
Good.
One thing that really upsets me is these pseudo-intellectual liberals writers, often in major newspapers and broadcast TV saying the Electoral College was designed by the slaves states to give their states leverage over the rest.
The implication, of course, was the evil white slave master Founder’s Constitution is racist.
Bull$h1t!
However, if any one state could be designated as giving us the Electoral College it would be Rhode Island—the smallest, and the most vulnerable to the whims of the citizens of the larger states.
The rifts that lead to the Civil War just weren’t prominent in 1787.
The main issue of the Convention of 1787 was coming up with the best substitute to Great Britain’s tyrannical rule, and how to create the government the Founders were drafting to balance democracy and the mob, with a permanent class of elites. Neither would be allowed to solely rule; there would be a democratic elected House with an Elite Senate chosen by the states. The US Constitution added a key component to then balance the election of National Leader, and that was the Electoral College.
Long may it reign as the law of the land!
Yes Sir!
California is the best example there is for having the Electoral College.
I calculated this out. In the four uber-liberal boroughs of NYC (not Staten Island), DC, Cook County (Chicago), Los Angeles County and the four largest counties of the San Francisco Bay Area, Clinton put up a victory margin well over 6 million (so far; still counting in California).
Take out those 11 counties - home to most of the elites and crazies on the left - and Trump would be leading the popular vote quite handily, probably by more than 5 percentage points.
If the electoral college were to be abolished, California would dominate the rest of the U.S. We would become colonies of theirs. Considering what they’ve done to their own state, would we really want them making decisions for the rest of us?
If the electoral college were to be abolished, California would dominate the rest of the U.S. We would become colonies of theirs. Considering what they’ve done to their own state, would we really want them making decisions for the rest of us?
The FOUNDERS rock!
Excellent point, my FRiend.
I haven't run any numbers by county in California, but just looking at their total vote one can say the same or more about that state.
The framers didn't want NYC, Boston and Philly deciding everything when they drafted the constitution and they were oh so correct. And since as even more states and large cities became part of the US and the electoral college looks better and better.
Your saying doesn’t hold water. One person could not keep a county up and run it, Your premise is based on true Democracy and that is why a True Democracy doesn’t stay around to long.
51 people could force 49 to be slaves!
True, and even still illegals pollute the EC since they are counted in the census and included in the totals that determine how many members of the US House each state has. California probably has eight or ten members in the House due to their illegal population of several million.
Several other states with a high illegal population also have some House members due to the illegals.
Also states with low numbers are underrepresented as the distribution of the 435 House Representatives would be skewed towards states with many illegals. It likely costs quite a few states at least 1 or 2 seats in the House.
Before the election, Hillary's staff were preparing to defend an electoral college win (hers) against a popular vote win (Trump's).
Wonder if we will ever see that memo in a Wikileak?
One of the main reasons Hillary won the popular vote was due to the fact that California was totally uncontested in the election and voted overwhelmingly Democratic. Republicans in the state had little or no motivation to vote, thanks to a runoff between two Democratic Senate candidates and the knowledge that the state is hopelessly Democratic.
If Trump and Hillary had been campaigning for the popular vote, they wouldn’t have wasted so much time in tiny states like New Hampshire and Nevada and would have campaigned totally differently, spending time running up the score in big states like California, Texas and New York.
Finally, I firmly believe that many non-citizens vote in California. It just doesn’t make sense that the state is so completely out of step with what’s going on in the rest of the nation.
Hillary! leads in the overall popular vote by about 2.3 million votes, last I heard. Four counties in California (Los Angeles, San Francisco, Santa Clara, and San Diego) contributed 2.6 million of those votes.
In other words, Hillary! won the overall popular vote in four counties in California, and Trump won the overall vote in the 3100+ counties in the rest of the country.
I think that what has happened is that people have begun to understand just what the Electoral college is and how it works.
I know I have gained a much better understanding of it and my kids have as well.
Besides, we are a representative republic. We are NOT a democracy, no matter how many times we are told that.
One of those being Pennsylvania, where I live. I don’t think people in Pennsylvania would like it if their votes did not count at all. The nation isn’t just one big land, it is a strongly intertwined set of 50 states, all of which have their part of the overall say in the policies of the Federal Government.
A county is a political entity, as is a state.
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