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1 posted on 01/14/2017 11:34:01 AM PST by nickcarraway
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There was no constitutional violation with the cross, but they are now in violation of the free exercise clause.


2 posted on 01/14/2017 11:37:14 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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With that history, they could easily have won a lawsuit.

I suppose they’ll NOW change the city name: SAINT Clara???

I think it should be AUNTY Clara


3 posted on 01/14/2017 11:37:47 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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>>and that the constitution is now being complied with

I wish they treated the 2nd Amendment like that. They’d insist that every American own a tank.


4 posted on 01/14/2017 11:38:06 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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An iconic piece.

The constitution does not guarantee freedom from religion (or offense)


5 posted on 01/14/2017 11:38:28 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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“We are happy that the city divested itself of this religious symbol, and that the constitution is now being complied with,”
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The Constitution does not require the eradication of our heritage and our history.


6 posted on 01/14/2017 11:38:39 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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If the cross could be donated why not the land also, just around the base of the cross

If they want to speak of separation of church and state- let us start suing for separation from climate change as practiced by many state funded colleges


7 posted on 01/14/2017 11:38:39 AM PST by Nailbiter
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"The granite cross was donated by the Santa Clara Lion's Club in 1953 **to mark the site** of the second Spanish Catholic mission established in the city in 1777. "

Even history itself is under attack by the haters of all things Christian.

Pic of the 'offending' Cross. Can I sue to have the markers for the old Pony Express route pulled down? They abused horses after all......why celibate animal actuality? The list of other 'offensive items' could be endless. (Thinking like a liberal whacker can hurt, so be careful)

8 posted on 01/14/2017 11:41:44 AM PST by ASOC (Have *you* visited the World of the Chernyi?)
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I would like to see the Martin Luther King monument removed from the Mall. Not only was King himself a preacher, he led a large religious organization and is named after the founder of the Protestant Reformation. Clearly the MLK monument is a religious symbol lifting up for veneration a ordained religious leader of a particular sect over all others.

What's next? Pope John Paul II arguably was critical in freeing more people (all of Eastern Europe and Russia, hundreds of millions of people) from a more repressive system (gulag era Soviet Communism) than King's mere 20 million American blacks freed from Jim Crow.

Can we erect a John Paul II statue on the Mall?

9 posted on 01/14/2017 11:41:47 AM PST by Jack Black (Dispossession is an obliteration of memory, of place, and of identity)
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I’m offended by the mosques can we remove them?? Especially those tall prayer towers!!


10 posted on 01/14/2017 11:43:16 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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So this iconic memento of history has to come down but that piece of crap artwork is still hanging in Congress? Gimme a break.


13 posted on 01/14/2017 11:47:31 AM PST by connyankee (#MAGABEGINS)
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“We are happy that the city divested itself of this religious symbol, and that the constitution is now being complied with,” said Rebecca Markert, attorney for Freedom From Religion Foundation.”

Once again, that mistaken preposition; it’s freedom OF belief, not freedom FROM belief. But this sort of affair makes special people like Rebecca who want to stand out for their specialness happy. Too bad my town gave in to a small group of legal thugs and yeah SC city council, that’s exactly what you did.


14 posted on 01/14/2017 11:49:24 AM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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What are they going to do next, demand that all cross-shaped headstones be removed from Arlington? (Oh geez, I better not give them any ideas.)


16 posted on 01/14/2017 11:52:50 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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When I was in high school, we were taught that separation of church and state simply meant that there was no official religion of the country, that all people were free to practice the religion of their choice. How we got from there to the bias against any religion (although Christians and Jews are the primary target) is a sordid story of liberalism, minority rights, and legal expenses or the threat thereof. I don’t know that we can ever revert back to the former attitude toward religion but pray that we will.


23 posted on 01/14/2017 12:47:30 PM PST by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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“’We are happy that the city divested itself of this religious symbol, and that the constitution is now being complied with,’ said Rebecca Markert, attorney for Freedom From Religion Foundation.”

Leftists consistently say and do the exact opposite of what they insist they say and do.

This violates the Constitution - but the Profane Court betrayed the nation long ago to embrace this inverted illogic.

Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion.


28 posted on 01/14/2017 2:20:17 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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Then to REALLY not prefer a certain religion; all TREES must be cut down as well.

Gaia must not violate the separation of church and state; either.

29 posted on 01/14/2017 3:02:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Rebecca dear, you and your clients really lost in the end.


32 posted on 01/14/2017 3:10:24 PM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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Only the Federal government was bound by the Establishment clause. States and local governments were legally free to established religion. The Constitution would not have been ratified if disestablishment were a prerequisite. It wasn’t until the misapplication of the 14th Amendment became prevalent that anyone would have even considered such an un-American idea.

Simply because, Antidisestablishment.


33 posted on 01/14/2017 3:28:31 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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I am glad that other nations are not going in the toilet like America is:


40 posted on 01/15/2017 2:31:19 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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