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California Goes Confederate
VDH Private Papers ^ | February 9, 2017 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/10/2017 3:07:28 PM PST by gubamyster

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To: MarMema

Perhaps I should describe the Puget Sound region or I-5 corridor as the nexus of socialism.


21 posted on 02/10/2017 3:30:36 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: gubamyster
So 40 percent of Californians supported Trump. Begs the question, how many voted fraudulently in CA? ☺
22 posted on 02/10/2017 3:31:04 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: gubamyster

Someone send Jerry Brown a confederate flag.


23 posted on 02/10/2017 3:31:24 PM PST by wardamneagle
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To: gubamyster

The lone similarity between California today and the Confederacy is secession. VDH’s knowledge of what drove secession in 1860 is pretty weak if he thinks it had anything in common with what is going on here now in Crazy America.

New England threatened secession twice. VDH might as well make that comparison while he’s at it.


24 posted on 02/10/2017 3:32:23 PM PST by Pelham (liberate Occupied California)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Don’t be stupid. You don’t give up the best to settle for less. CA is the crown jewel of this great country with strategic massive harbors, one of the biggest military presences etc. So that’s not going to happen Reb.


25 posted on 02/10/2017 3:36:59 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: gubamyster

With a new administration in place, one of the things I hope they investigate is to what extent there are connections between the Mexican government and the illegal community in California and California government processes.

The MSM/Left blew the email leaks that showed that the DNC screwed over Bernie and that Hillary cheated at the debates into a big “foreign government interfering in the US” narrative.

So what about the Mexican government? Are they interfering in the US?


26 posted on 02/10/2017 3:41:33 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: gubamyster

Wikileaks needs to focus and obtain hacked data from CA state government. These sellout criminals have lots to hide.

Do it Julian!


27 posted on 02/10/2017 3:46:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PGR88

What people don’t realize is that California’s history of progressive politics is nothing new.

This state used to be a hotbed of GOP progressives like Hiram Johnson who defeated Democrat George S Patton Sr for US Senate in 1916. Earl Warren, three term Governor and bane of American conservatives when he was Chief Justice of SCOTUS. GOP US Senator from Orange County during the 1950s and 60s, Thomas Kuchel, who was bitterly opposed to Barry Goldwater and an ally of Lyndon Johnson.

Ronald Reagan was the anomaly.


28 posted on 02/10/2017 3:47:17 PM PST by Pelham (liberate Occupied California)
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To: GraceG

Geographically most of California is conservative. It’s the high population centers around LA and San Fran that pull the state to the left. Perhaps the state should be divided into two states, much like what happened in the Civil War when West Virginia separated from Virginia because of cultural and political differences. I should go back and read exactly how that process was initiated.


29 posted on 02/10/2017 3:48:07 PM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: gubamyster

If CA turns the entire state into an ultra-liberal enclave, inviting unvetted millions from Mexico and around the world, the conservatives who are left, and believe it or not there are millions, are likely to leave the state. It will soon become another state of Mexico. The name Mexifornia will be fitting.


30 posted on 02/10/2017 3:48:12 PM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: gubamyster

In fact, Trump should put out *big* cash rewards for people in CA to come forward with information leading to arrests and convictions of CA government officials.

Start it at $1,000,000


31 posted on 02/10/2017 3:49:42 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: gubamyster

Boy talk about a dumb title


32 posted on 02/10/2017 3:50:27 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: gubamyster

Cut off the power and water and secession ends in hours.


33 posted on 02/10/2017 3:52:57 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

California was its own nation for a whole 25 days in 1846.

The Bear Flag with one star and a grizzly bear flew over the California Republic.


34 posted on 02/10/2017 3:53:24 PM PST by Pelham (liberate Occupied California)
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To: gubamyster

Freepers are probably ignorant of this

California is a positive tax contributor to the USA overall IN SPITE OF ITSELF

And it’s the worlds seventh largest GDP

but electorally it would help us no question

The only drag California is is unto itself and electorally

Btw

It’s not happening

The state splitting up maybe one day but never secession


35 posted on 02/10/2017 3:53:53 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: wardaddy

That’s right. Secession is never going to happen. Pie in the sky BS. But it could split at some point, like the State of Jefferson. Unlikely, but possible.

And you’re correct, CA pays more in fed taxes than most all of these so called conservative, “red states”. Most here have no clue about CA.


36 posted on 02/10/2017 3:58:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Publius

I woulda never figured grants pass to cave junction and Bryan etc going 2-1 Donald

Huge pot growing areas

So much for conventional free Republic wisdom on that

Pot is probably the biggest industry in cave junction

Very twin peaksish

Beautiful country

Now eastern Oregon is about like Texas culturally

NorCal is similar demographics wise


37 posted on 02/10/2017 4:11:56 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: gubamyster

The Inland Empire should secede like West Virginia did.

Then build a wall around the “rebels” and let them eat each other.


38 posted on 02/10/2017 4:20:58 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GAY MARRIAGE- Like declaring a dog's tail to be a leg giving a dog 5 legs. But it is still a tail!)
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Let them secede, but destroy every dam, aqueduct, powerline, or any other form of infrastructure that was built by ‘mericans. Also completely block all water from the colorado river to the imperial valley. Also northern Nevada must sue for damages each and every day that our air quality is wrecked due to fires because of their krap forestry practices (sometimes you cant even see the sun for weeks at a time), and we need to charge carbon taxes for each estimated ton of carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere because of said fires


39 posted on 02/10/2017 4:22:59 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Sam Gamgee
This is the current interpretation of the law on the matter of secession.
40 posted on 02/10/2017 4:28:36 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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