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Let’s Stop Flattering Ourselves by Insisting It’s 1984
National Review ^ | March 2, 2017 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 03/04/2017 10:55:27 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: Chickensoup

“It is a wonderful film for the Right to claim. I own it and my children have all watched it.”

It’s a favorite of mine (and not just for prurient reasons). I have it on DVD and I think I had it on VHS forever ago.

1984 and Idiocracy are the two movies I recommend to people who want to see where the US is heading.


21 posted on 03/04/2017 11:34:53 AM PST by PLMerite
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To: PLMerite

LOL!

We saw that movie after reading the book in high school, and my teacher had a large black poster board ready for when that scene happened.


22 posted on 03/04/2017 11:35:11 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: EveningStar

Orwell believed governments have ZERO business in any “arts” or “public radio or TV”

NONE


23 posted on 03/04/2017 11:44:31 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW! BOYCOTT Mexico nba NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: Zeneta

The agitprop and psychological warfare on the minds of our children was started with the Humanist, communist John Dewey in 1930. (Huxley and Orwell knew exactly where these “group-think” indoctrination centers would lead (to the Brave New World Order). Ignorance is rampant as is the revisionism of our history with the demonization of the White race (that is the target: White, Male and Christian (Age of Reason).

Forcing irrationality (no Natural Law Theory/Aristotelian Logic, Socratic Method or Euclidean proofs) onto children-—trapping them for years away from their Natural Family (Reality) and TRUE wisdom (The Bible—discerning Good and Evil (Cicero)).

Without Knowledge and Wisdom (discerning Good and Evil/Christianity), they could force their irrationality and warp little children-—now to the point where sodomizing others is again a virtue like in Babylon, as is pederasty and pedophilia and incest and baby-sacrifice, as is slavery and vice (baby-killing). (The Freemason infiltration into the CC and legal system (the pro-sodomy, baby-sacrificing “judges” (who push Satanism, btw, are Freemasons).

It was the point......to destroy Free Will (the minds) of children—to make them so irrational and dumb and removed from Reality that Up will be Down and Slavery would be Freedom and Boys will be Girls.

Google Fichte, “Snow is Black” 1810 quote concerning destroying “Free Will” in young children to create useful idiots (snowflakes). The Marxists/Freemasons took over “education” by the 1930s in America—and all publishing agencies to destroy the minds of children—make them incapable of critical thinking (destroy individualism for collective worldview of slavery to the elites, corporations.)

To destroy the Patriarchy (Rational society based on Reality), they had to emasculate and demean the White race and males to make their extraordinary philosophy “obsolete” and make us into tribal mindsets-—so we recreate Marxist world-—group against group-—divide and conquer—ideas that preceded Julius Caesar.

We need to un-bann the Christian Ethic system which forms our “Justice” system—the ONLY “true” “rational” “Just” system which is the only constitutional kind. We have allowed Obama to create Rule of Man-—and eliminate Rule of Law (Higher Laws instead of irrational Positive laws which are anti-constitutional and have to be made “null and void”.

Parents need to get your children OUT of the brainwashing “system” and expose them to Truth (God) again......or as Dostoevsky stated, “Without God, everything is permissible” and he was a genius. We can not allow satanism (sodomy/baby-killing) to be normalized in young children—it will warp their perceptions for LIFE—the male/female paradigm!!!!!! and make them into irrational useful (non-thinking) idiots.

All behaviors are learned and habituated—and perversions are all caused by child abuse and neglect-—mostly by child-rape.


24 posted on 03/04/2017 11:54:01 AM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: EveningStar

The book was great, the movie sucked.


25 posted on 03/04/2017 12:01:29 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: piasa
FRmail me if you'd rather not post the info to the thread, but what year did you read 1984 ?

I had to read it too, but that thought never crossed my mind and for good reason.

26 posted on 03/04/2017 12:09:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: EveningStar

In fact, 1984 is why President Trump got elected.


27 posted on 03/04/2017 12:25:16 PM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Bryanw92
Government sponsored art is the opposite of art.

Post of the day . . .

28 posted on 03/04/2017 1:43:53 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Bryanw92

So true. Another “business” that the government has no business being involved in.


29 posted on 03/04/2017 1:44:02 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: EveningStar
On April 4...

Why 3 days late??


 

 
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


30 posted on 03/04/2017 3:35:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PLMerite

“1984 and Idiocracy are the two movies I recommend to people who want to see where the US is heading.”

For something lighter, “Americathon.”


31 posted on 03/04/2017 3:51:19 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: PLMerite

Aye yi yi.


32 posted on 03/04/2017 5:52:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: EveningStar

Orwell’s estate gets richer off the notion and his publisher is exploiting the sentiment to line their coffers (they get a cut too).


33 posted on 03/04/2017 7:10:28 PM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: a fool in paradise
Orwell’s estate gets richer off the notion and his publisher is exploiting the sentiment to line their coffers (they get a cut too).

No problem for me.

I don't muzzle my ox when he's working.

34 posted on 03/05/2017 2:56:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Organic Panic

“Superbowel, there’s Obama.”

I don’t know if that was a typo or intentional but it’s perfect.


35 posted on 03/05/2017 4:13:07 AM PST by RipSawyer (At the end of the day...the sun goes down.)
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To: Elsie

His publisher hired the Communist propagandist Shepherd Fairey to design the covers to his books for recent editions.

The MSM has been pushing the meme that Trump and not since Ronald Reagan has an American presidency resembled the horror show of 1984 and Animal Farm.


36 posted on 03/05/2017 6:01:19 AM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: Elsie

In other words, his publisher is deliberately misappropriating his message when his original target was Stalinists in the West.


37 posted on 03/05/2017 6:02:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: savagesusie

You are spot on with your post.

Very well stated.

We have transitioned from the “Age of Reason” to the “Age of Uncertainty”.

An age in which having a foundation for belief is attacked and undermined by pure peer pressure and now our Governments for the mere fact of proclaiming something to be true.

The Humanist’s are basically Buddhist. Spiritual people that reject monotheism for a flavor of polytheism that elevates themselves to gods. (see the work of Joseph Campbell)

Forcing irrationality is the effort to convince people that there is “No such thing as Truth”. To convince people that everything is relative. They have found bedfellows in the science of Quantum Physics and are leveraging this to advance their “Uncertainty Principal” onto the foundations of human interactions.

From the oddly named “Reason Rally”

No Science, No Logic and No Morality: Atheism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxz84kS8k4U


38 posted on 03/05/2017 10:38:10 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: a fool in paradise

I just saw the 1962 version: The Manchurian Candidate.


39 posted on 03/05/2017 12:49:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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