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Former Bush attorney general: Trump likely right about surveillance
thehill.com ^ | 03/05/17

Posted on 03/06/2017 1:06:00 AM PST by Helicondelta

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To: Yardstick

Huge difference in the words “ordered” and “approved”.....


41 posted on 03/06/2017 6:54:43 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

#2. Lynch acted at the request of Crown subPresident Clinton, Obama wasn’t told at first.


42 posted on 03/06/2017 7:22:31 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Pravious
Any capture and analysis of his work would allow umpteen agencies (as of early January) to rifle through his intercepted conversations—just as ours are being mined.

The unfortunate thing is that his transcripts leaked. If you say certain key words, (”k-— the P————,” you, too, will be intercepted and have automatic voice-to-text transcripts created.) Look this up—don't just take my word for it.

But you mean squat to insiders, as of today.

Trump's a gold mine for 0 and Clinton operatives. As fewer operatives exist in the NSA (it's primarily military people but some contractors like Snowden), opening Trump's communications to tons of others means tons more leaks are possible. It is even possible that if FISA allowed it, they could turn on Trump's phone microphone and he wouldn't know it happened.

So, either accidentally or on purpose, Trump has finally learned he was monitored. This monitoring came from the government, which 0 was in charge of.

So, 0 bugged him in potentially multiple ways, potentially explicitly by his authority, but definitely by design through his authority, even if not explicit.

43 posted on 03/06/2017 7:27:31 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Helicondelta

As has been said numerous times on this forum he probably did not order it but he authorized it.


44 posted on 03/06/2017 7:43:39 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: SteveH

If you don’t think Obama knew what Lynch was doing getting a FISA warrant on Trump campaign communications a couple of weeks before the election, I think you’re kidding yourself.

Are you part of the GOP Establishment yourself, by chance?


45 posted on 03/06/2017 8:18:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

i have no absolute way of knowing whether obama did or did not know what Lynch was doing getting a FISA warrant on Trump campaign communications a couple of weeks before the election. i was not there, and i have seen no evidence one way or another. (but the first question from at least my perspective is, does it matter if i know or do not know?)

and haha, no. i am not at all a part of the dreaded country club republicans, aka the gop establishment. i am 3000 miles away from DC, deep in flyover country (silicon valley, california). my training and background is technical, not politics. i have viewpoints and questions, but that is all. folks are welcome to read what i write, but i am not at all close to any centers of power (so don’t worry, nothing i write need be viewed as particularly indicative of anything important— it is just commentary at most). if i sound like i am politically connected, that is absolutely not the case— i have just been observing from afar for while. a professional political operative could undoubtedly run circles around me. I would probably not even bother to try to stop him or her, if so. i am here mainly to try to keep myself informed, and beyond that, amused. many of my responses could probably be viewed as notes to myself, or entertainment for others. i am flattered if someone occasionally agrees with me, but also i am embarrassed and hopefully i readily enough accept fault if someone brings to my attention anything that i write which is incorrect or otherwise inappropriate, in either fact or reasoning.

(however, i might just be a really smart dog— after all, this is the internet, ya know...)

;-)


46 posted on 03/06/2017 9:09:00 AM PST by SteveH
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To: 9YearLurker

also, you can if you like go through my postings back to when i first joined fr. i should save you the trouble though, and just let you and anyone else who is similarly inclined to suspect i am aligned with the GOP establishment that you are going to find few, if any, of my posts that bolster that point of view concerning me. And IMHO even that would be a considerable understatement.


47 posted on 03/06/2017 9:15:28 AM PST by SteveH
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To: pepsionice
Hillary has a long and corrupt history with the Russians - so does Podesta... maybe this was done proactively. Clintons often accuse others of doing what they're doing... throws everyone off their trail. Of course it's unnecessary since the press is in the bag for them...

It's like when the Clintons grub for more money when they have millions and millions. They don't know when to stop.

48 posted on 03/06/2017 9:18:21 AM PST by GOPJ ("Acting' is the art of lying convincingly. Outside of Hollywood that's 'con-men' stuff..)
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To: jazminerose

Pass-the-buck, official M.O. of B.O...and anyone named Clinton...and anyone with a (D) next to their name...


49 posted on 03/06/2017 9:32:45 AM PST by Moonlighter
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To: Helicondelta

50 posted on 03/06/2017 9:43:03 AM PST by kabar
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To: SteveH; Helicondelta; All
the article’s writer and liberal conspiracy theorists imho ignore the larger view

Conspiracy theorist? Ya know what's ironic? Is most of those so-called tinfoil conspiracy folks were right all along. Don't believe me, just look at the headlines in 2017 America.

51 posted on 03/06/2017 9:53:39 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Helicondelta
A distinction without a difference.

Plausible Deniability.

Either the most brilliant man ever to occupy the White House was too stupid to know what his covert people were doing, or he knew full well and also knows there is no way it can be proved.

52 posted on 03/06/2017 10:53:04 AM PST by itsahoot
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To: Helicondelta

Once again I get the idea Clapper is behind yet another interesting story. sorry for the redundancy


53 posted on 03/06/2017 2:22:09 PM PST by mikhailovich
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To: plangent

His initial tweet was “Obama HAD Trump Tower bugged.” Nobody used the word “ordered”


54 posted on 03/06/2017 3:49:33 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Chinese Bank is one of the tenants in Trump Tower They could have intercepted the BUG and informed Trump.
(What are the chances a Chinese Bank would have communications with a Russian Bank?)


55 posted on 03/08/2017 12:33:03 AM PST by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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