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What they're all missing is [the possibility that] there was no valid FISA warrant

Posted on 03/06/2017 2:20:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson

It's obviously not the first crime committed by the lawless Obama administration, er, democrat crime family. Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Clapper, Comey, Lerner, et al, are all lawless criminals.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: wiretapping
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To: arthurus

Non issue.

No country can change another country’s citizenship rolls.

I have two passports. Neither country is interested that I have the other. Millions of Americans have or have the right to have citizenship elsewhere.


141 posted on 03/06/2017 4:46:37 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Vermont Lt
If there are no FISA warrants then I'm sure it must all be a simple "mistake" on some petty bureaucrat's part collecting all that unauthorized data and then leaking it, right?

Right?

Are there still schematic plans for constructing multiple noose gallows around somewhere - you know, like the ones we see in those pictures of the Civil War with the Capitol Building in the background and the corpses hanging from them?

It might be time to dust them out of the Smithsonian mothballs...

142 posted on 03/06/2017 4:51:01 PM PST by Gritty (The whole leftist platform is about putting us down and keeping us down - Kurt Schlicter)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think it’s the Democrat Party in name only anymore. The Democrats were always IMO lowlife, but once they made their deal with the Devil they reached the lowest of the lows possible.

The Democrats are no longer a legitimate American political entity. They are now just a cog in the of the international Marxist wheel.


143 posted on 03/06/2017 4:54:50 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: lizma2

Nope it doesn’t. Anymore than commuting murder is forgiven because you write about it


144 posted on 03/06/2017 4:56:27 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Chgogal

I do get fox business. Will watch out for it. Thanks.


145 posted on 03/06/2017 4:59:43 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Grampa Dave

My wife and I were at the grocery once and sent a text to our daughter.

I don’t recall it, but it was about stuff we were buying.

It was obscene. She texted back shocked at us.

We broke down laughing in the aisle because it was so outlandish. Fortunately, we’re older and she’s over 30.


146 posted on 03/06/2017 5:01:42 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: Nifster

HUH? Sorry, I don’t understand your post.


147 posted on 03/06/2017 5:08:04 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Yaelle

Some countries require a renunciation of citizenship in order to acquire new local citizenship. Indonesia at least did.


148 posted on 03/06/2017 5:08:33 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: Robert DeLong

I’ve read some speculation that the intercepts actually came from a friendly foreign intelligence service—perhaps upon request. This information was then disseminated widely within the US intelligence community.

With regard to FISA warrants, it is possible that the Obama administration attempted to use the FISA process to launder information initially obtained elsewhere. In legal parlance, this is called parallel construction.


149 posted on 03/06/2017 5:09:30 PM PST by independentmind (In te Domine confido non confundar in aeternum)
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To: xzins

Your story is replicated across America everyday.

We do it and receive junk from relatives and friends due to lazy or bad fingers and auto correct/spell!


150 posted on 03/06/2017 5:16:01 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obama shredded our constitution with his TrumpTowerGate. Obama is today's Nixon!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yeah, the warrant says to investigate Baskin & Robbins, and whether any of the 31 flavors were Russian.

And, Trump had once had an ice cream cone at B&R so we....


151 posted on 03/06/2017 5:17:49 PM PST by Professional
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To: Jim Robinson

What action happened at Troop Tower between the June FISA request and the October FISA issue? What put lots of “police” in the Trump Tower? The Trump Tower climber did it in August. While everybody was distracted...what could have happened?


152 posted on 03/06/2017 5:25:23 PM PST by WHATNEXT?
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To: frnewsjunkie

And that is why it will be so great when the Clinton/0bama crime families are taken down.

A guy named Al Capone thought he was an “untouchable” also.


153 posted on 03/06/2017 5:37:30 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: independentmind

That’s interesting I have not heard that, but if that were true why not divulge the source then, and why the leaks in the press that a FISA warrant was issued on the 2nd go round?


154 posted on 03/06/2017 5:42:22 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Jim Robinson

What did they do before FISA court was invented? Wasn’t there previously some legal protocol for wiretapping, whether or not foreign intelligence was a factor?
If there was no FISA warrant, Obama could still have found a pretext for electronic surveillance, could he not?


155 posted on 03/06/2017 5:50:58 PM PST by Buttons12 ( rent this space)
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To: Jim Robinson
Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Clapper, Comey, Lerner, et al, are all lawless criminals.

One of these is not like the others...

and more troublesome for that.

156 posted on 03/06/2017 5:55:45 PM PST by Buttons12 ( rent this space)
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To: Yaelle

How could an early grade school age kid change his citizenship?

Per INS rules back then (and now), parents can’t do it for the kid, and the kid would need to be mature enough to do it himself; 0’d have been maybe 5 at the time.


157 posted on 03/06/2017 7:57:39 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: arthurus; Yaelle

Kid was maybe 5 when he went to Indonesia, not mature enough to do the renunciation... .
I’m trying to figure how it was pulled off..


158 posted on 03/06/2017 8:01:07 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

How could an early grade school age kid change his citizenship?


Barack didn’t have any USA citizenship, but I don’t think you are asking that. I am guessing that somehow mama Stanley Ann got her baby onto her own passport to get him to Indonesia. Then, I believe Mr. Soetoro just claimed him as his son. No questions asked when he started school. I doubt he was formally adopted, but I doubt anyone cared. That was his son, bam bang.

You’re right that little kids can’t change citizenship on their own, but due to marriage, and some other circumstances, people can be handed citizenship. I was, when I married someone from another country. I didn’t ask for it. Probably the important Mr Soetoro could just go with the right denomination of bills, or maybe not even, and get his son Barack a passport.


159 posted on 03/06/2017 8:03:42 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: WildHighlander57

I gave a possible scenario just now in my previous post.


160 posted on 03/06/2017 8:06:14 PM PST by Yaelle
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