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Internal Secession and the Road to Ruin: Two Countries
Fred On Everything ^ | February 16, 2017 | Fred Reed

Posted on 03/07/2017 11:16:24 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain

Trump did not cause the deep division in the country. It caused him. There are two very different Americas. I suspect that the half of the country that voted for Trump, that voted with wild enthusiasm, that roared at huge rallies, was not so much voting for Trump as against the other America. It was just that they had never had a chance before. The two countries have little in common and do not belong on the same geography.

Whether Trump proves to be the catastrophic buffoon he apparently aspires to be, the current protests illuminate a stark difference between his supporters and Hillary’s. The chasm is far deeper than just politics, embracing culture, taste, manners and morals. The groups are distinct and incompatible .

The difference begins with manners. Throughout the campaign Trump’s partisans forgathered in huge rallies, applauded, calmly went home, and later voted. At the same time we saw on Clinton’s behalf mobs of ill-bred, worse mannered, loutish, perennial adolescents blocking highways, shutting down rallies, engaging in vandalism and physically attacking supporters of Trump. Cars were destroyed, fires set, ATMs smashed. Black Lives Matter, always ghetto predators, were worst, but low-grade college students and their equally dismal professors joined in. They were obscene, infantile.

And naive: They apparently believe that they harm Trump though of course their behavior drives people in the other direction. I am no fan of Donald , but I look the foregoing and think Anything else.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; liberalism; milo; trump
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Interesting and colorful commentary.
1 posted on 03/07/2017 11:16:24 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain
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>> The chasm is far deeper than just ...

In reality, the division is fostered by just a few with a relatively small army.

Never concede an ounce of soil.


2 posted on 03/07/2017 11:22:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

*** I suspect that the half of the country that voted for Trump, that voted with wild enthusiasm, that roared at huge rallies, was not so much voting for Trump as against the other America. ***

Uhmmmm....yep.


3 posted on 03/07/2017 11:27:33 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Great article


4 posted on 03/07/2017 11:34:28 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

My favorite line:

I imagine Rachel Maddow with twelve body segments and compound eyes.


5 posted on 03/08/2017 12:08:13 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

I couldn't help but notice that this writer took at least three cheap shots at Trump.

Time for the Cuckservatives to pick a side.

6 posted on 03/08/2017 1:07:46 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Ciaphas Cain

This article reminded me of how Rush Limbaugh describes seeing groups of the Congressional ‘RATS — they look like the bar scene in the original Star Wars movie. And they do!


7 posted on 03/08/2017 1:50:48 AM PST by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

fred Reed is the best


8 posted on 03/08/2017 2:17:01 AM PST by vooch
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
I couldn't help but notice that this writer took at least three cheap shots at Trump.

I've read Reed for many years. And you either have never read him or you do and you're trying to pigeonhole him into what you think a conservative should be. That's identity politics, friend. It's unforgiving extremism just as the self-styled liberals are doing.

Fred Reed is a rare bird. I don't think he's against Trump per se. Just hoping for the best while bracing for a reality which may or may not be. Reed despises Obama, despises the Clintons, despises McCain, TOTALLY despises the Bushes especially 43, despises feminists, despises liberal academics, despises a LOT of the sort that's brought this country to the brink of ruin. Reed is jaded, and I don't really blame him. Better to be cautiously pessimistic and vigilant now so as to be delighted with surprise later, than to NOT be vigilant. Trump is still just a man. And as Tolkien elaborated upon, power and glory has a way of tempting and corrupting any man.

9 posted on 03/08/2017 2:32:36 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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“Whether Trump proves to be the catastrophic buffoon he apparently aspires to be...”

So. This neverTrump asshat still doesn’t get it? How stupid can a human being be and still continue to write “conservative” political blogs? Apparently very stupid.

I’ll leave his satire and witticisms for the weakly standard crowd.


10 posted on 03/08/2017 2:58:05 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (It's no longer Right versus left, but Americanism versus globalist scum.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

See my comment at #9.


11 posted on 03/08/2017 3:11:22 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I’ve read Fred Reed off and on for several years. He tends to be a bit too self righteous for me.


12 posted on 03/08/2017 3:35:34 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Freedom Trumps Fascism)
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To: Vendome

“not so much voting for Trump as against the other America.”

Yup!
The mistake of the Hilary camp was to get out of touch with reality, out of touch with real people.

Trump fans need to avoid becoming like Hilary. Many people who voted for Trump, and continue to support him now, are not Trump fans and never will be.

Trump has seemingly endorsed Paul Ryan’s Obamacare-lite. Many Trump voters, including Trump fans and those who just voted against Hilary, are strongly opposed to Obamacare-lite.

Trump fans make a big mistake if they require 100% support of Trump’s Obamacare-lite.

Likewise on an single issue. Trump is no more infallible than the Pope.


13 posted on 03/08/2017 3:47:43 AM PST by spintreebob
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Hillary was in touch with the very real people that make this country suck - and she received more votes than Trump. Thankfully she didn’t get them where she needed them, and didn’t reach the 50% of votes cast - she can never say she was the voters’ choice if more than half the voters chose someone other than her (her husband won twice, but with the same issue - never got 50% of the vote).


14 posted on 03/08/2017 3:51:39 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Gene Eric

Romney was right when he said his opponent started out with 47% of the vote; it isn’t a small army. A small group of commissars at the top, maybe - but masses of useful idiots looking for a purpose below them.


15 posted on 03/08/2017 3:53:50 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Whether Trump proves to be the catastrophic buffoon he apparently aspires to be........

I find this neither interesting nor colorful. It is only at the end that the writer admits he has no love for Trump. However, there are some truths in what he says about why the great divide.

16 posted on 03/08/2017 4:01:17 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ciaphas Cain

The sole item that Reed has against Trump is his stand on illegal immigration. And the probable reason for that is that Reed retired to Mexico so his retirement funds would go further and married a Mexican after being there awhile. Reed contends that conservatives are “anti-immigration” rather than “anti-illegal”.


17 posted on 03/08/2017 4:43:02 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
I couldn't help but notice that this writer took at least three cheap shots at Trump.

Good observation...probably has a recovering #nevertrump fan base...like so many of these newly minted freepers.

18 posted on 03/08/2017 4:44:50 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: House Atreides
"This article reminded me of how Rush Limbaugh describes seeing groups of the Congressional ‘RATS — they look like the bar scene in the original Star Wars movie. And they do!"

Excellent observation... Half of them folks have got to be from Mars or something...

19 posted on 03/08/2017 5:26:23 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

“Whether Trump proves to be the catastrophic buffoon he apparently aspires to be...”

“Whether Trump proves to be the catastrophic buffoon he apparently aspires to be...” My brother loeves this guy. To me he’s a crank.


20 posted on 03/08/2017 5:55:04 AM PST by Luke21
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