Posted on 03/17/2017 7:53:08 PM PDT by drewh
I often quote this observation. I think it's totally brilliant.
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This would mean that the Obama administration had effectively short-circuited the FISA process by checking to see if Trump associates were picked up incidentally on existing surveillance, and then disseminating the take widely within the intelligence bureaucracy. Thats not the same as ordering without court oversight a targeted wiretap on Trump Tower. But its pretty serious, nonetheless.
History of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.
It couldnt possibly be true, because that is not how our system works, Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.
We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans here or abroad.
Well, Nancy how about this: Part two of ??? parts history of our agreement where the Brits spied on our people and we spied on their people for 7+ decades. Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.
MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2] GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]
GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.
Contents:
1 Overview
2 Operational details
3 Reactions and countermeasures
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References
7 External links
Overview:
The programme is jointly run by:
Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)
MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP.
In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]
Operational details:
According to the leaked document the NSAs acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agencys headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland.
The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]
According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (selectors in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2]
Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.
Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]
Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]
According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections.
According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)
Boy, that is a great quote. Pretty much sums it up.
Got some ‘splaining to do!
Trump never claimed that they were authorized
L8r
President Trump is making a lot of Americans face reality for the first time in their lives. The media is doing everything it can to portray him as a crackpot, conspiratorial figure, but slowly more and more people are sensing that not all is well with the way our country has been run by the folks in DC. Every day the president draws his sword on these people, and is fighting them tooth and nail to give this country back to the American people.
Do we have any evidence that the FISA warrants were sought, rejected, approved?
Adam Schiff may not have many fans on FR but in this case he’s doing exactly the right thing for the wrong reasons. Being a Democrat he is on his high horse to investigate all this Trumped-up Russian Hacking-Interfered-In-Our-Election nonsense, but by doing an infestigation, he unknowingly will be exposing the dirty underbelly that the Deep State very much wants to keep hidden. As the saying goes, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” and as long as Schiff keeps pushing for answers and investigations, all the stuff will come out too.
I truly love this man trump for paying back our republic when he could have watched the world burn...Very inspiring call out all of these pukes undermining our Great nation...all of them. he is proving over and over again how corrupt and selfish communists really are...
I agree. We were all sort of thinking along these lines, but she wrapped words around it and made it a thing.
After Trump made Obola release his fraudulent B.C. in 2011, I’m sure Barry brought the full force and fraud of the federal gubbermint to investigate Trump.
Thank G-d he regrouped and came back. Trump’s run has been a magnificent and coordinated counter coup.
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Take Donald Trump's Wiretap Claims Seriously
Check out article, ... please.
Thanks, bitt.
This is a great article and very informative. I posted it on my Facebook and shared it with Bill Mitchell’s Facebook. Also posted it on another forum. Good stuff.
Thank you for all your pingifying.
You’re welcome.
I like your new word. Describes it quite well!
“Trumps supporters took him seriously, but not literally, whereas the press took him literally, but not seriously.”
Wow.
This is brilliant. And true.
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