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Why Trump’s approval ratings don’t matter
The New York Post ^ | March 25, 2017 | Salena Zito

Posted on 3/25/2017, 8:21:37 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio — While pundits breathlessly reported this week that President Trump’s Gallup approval rating has plummeted to a historic low (dipping to 37 points), not all approval ratings are created equal.

Because in American politics, geography is everything.

Live in an urban, minority or college setting, and Donald J. Trump is underwater in the polls in a big way; he gets a frosty 29 percent approval rating in the cities, 35 percent approval in the urban suburbs, in the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal survey.

But, live in the second ring of suburbs outside the cities, or the exurbs or the third and fourth rings that comprise rural America, and the president gets a 53 percent to 59 percent job approval rating in the same poll.

For the most part, the people who live in those regions are pretty much happy with him.

That’s a puzzling notion that has befuddled many journalists, members of the permanent establishment and pundits on both sides of the aisle since the day Trump was inaugurated.

And, in all likelihood, that effervescent support will continue for a very long time. Why? Because the people who live in those outer rings of cities aren’t just separated by geography; they’re separated by culture, traditions and aspirations that differ from those of their city cousins.

They also are so tired of being ridiculed by the political class over the notion they’re digging in for Trump, more so than they normally would. Especially when they read (yes, they do read) columns in New York Magazine by former theater critic Frank Rich who takes a deep swipe at Trump’s base, writing: “While you can’t blame our new president for loving ‘the poorly educated’ who gave him that blank check....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2017polls; demographics; elites; first100days; geography; polls; trump; trump45; zito

1 posted on 3/25/2017, 8:21:37 PM by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My impression is that the city/country political divide is pretty simple. The cities and suburbs have people that either work or depend on government programs. Environmental and small business regulations have devastated those further out. Farmers and small businessmen are being driven out of business, and rural workers can’t find good full time work.


2 posted on 3/25/2017, 8:32:01 PM by AndyTheBear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Because the Clinton Archipelago mirrors where the media has influence:


3 posted on 3/25/2017, 8:37:11 PM by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; angelrod

see_why_scott_adams_sees_ryancare_failure_as_as a big success for trump.

Delbert ^ | Scott Adams
Posted on 3/25/2017, 9:59:38 AM by angelrod

With the failure of the Ryan health care bill, the illusion of Trump-is-Hitler has been fully replaced with Trump-is-incompetent meme. Look for the new meme to dominate the news, probably through the summer. By year end, you will see a second turn, from incompetent to “Competent, but we don’t like it.”

In all seriousness, the Trump-is-Hitler illusion was the biggest problem in the country, and maybe the world. It was scaring people to the point of bad health. It made any kind of political conversation impossible. It turned neighbors and friends against each other in a way we have never before seen. It was inviting violence, political instability, and worse.

In my opinion, the Trump-is-Hitler hallucination was the biggest short-term problem facing the country. Congress just solved for it, albeit unintentionally. Watch the opposition news abandon the Trump-is-scary concept to get all over the “incompetent” theme.

Excerpted! Go to link below to see how Trump is no longer Hitler, he is incompetent!

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3538000/posts


4 posted on 3/25/2017, 8:39:40 PM by Grampa Dave ( The illusion of Trump-is-Hitler has been fully replaced with Trump-is-incompetent meme on 3/24/2017)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The main thing with Gallup's crappy poll that got the media all hot was that its sample was just "adults".

This is why Rasmussen (which got the 2016 presidential election dead on) has such a differently number (49% approval). Its poll is likely voters.

Gallup's poll of just "adults," not likely voters or even registered voters, is a waste of time, unless you're a media looking to write a giddy anti-Trump article.

5 posted on 3/25/2017, 8:45:00 PM by Trump20162020
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because these are the same pollsters who said Hillary Clinton was winning the election by a landslide.


6 posted on 3/25/2017, 8:51:23 PM by Bodleian_Girl (Please check out TheCitizensAudit.com to find out what David Brock has been doing)
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To: AndyTheBear

Agree....

City people have to rely on government to feed and protect them.

Rural America is more self sufficient.

The cities should have NO say in how rurals live, the environment, farming, water storage, power generation or how we police ourselves.


7 posted on 3/25/2017, 9:04:01 PM by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOS / PC guy forever and always e)
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To: bigbob

Awesome graphic BB


8 posted on 3/25/2017, 9:06:56 PM by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOS / PC guy forever and always e)
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To: Trump20162020

Yeah, Gallup just polls adults....which is pretty worthless.

Anyhow, today Gallup has Trump at 41% approval.


9 posted on 3/25/2017, 9:11:57 PM by Conserv
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To: Grampa Dave

Thxs GP for linking to my post!


10 posted on 3/25/2017, 9:12:10 PM by angelrod
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s approval numbers were often in the upper thirties and they had to inflate and bias the results just to obtain that.

I say this because all throughout his administration the press would proclaim “an all time low” somewhere between 39 and 41 and it didn’t matter that the new all time low was higher than the last one.


11 posted on 3/25/2017, 10:05:15 PM by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmm...the 29% in cities *could* actually be an improvement.
Actual election results:
Suffolk MA (nearly coextensive with Boston): 17% Trump
NYC: 18% Trump
Phila PA: 16% Trump
Balto MD: 11% Trump
Orleans LA: 15% Trump
SF CA: 10% Trump
St. Louis MO: 17% Trump
On the other side of the ledger:
Jacksonville FL: 51% Trump
Carson City NV: 58% Trump

Most election results are reported by couhty and these cities are coextensive with their counties or nearly so.

Virginia’s cities ranged from Petersburg’s 87% Clinton to Poquoson’s 71% Trump. Clinton took 26 of 38 cities.
Overall it was 38% Trump.


12 posted on 3/26/2017, 1:01:13 AM by scrabblehack
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To: All

Where did they do the polling in Kenya?


13 posted on 3/26/2017, 2:25:12 AM by jr3000
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