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Flush with highway cash, Texas still looking for toll options
The Houston Chronicle ^ | April 21, 2017 | Dug Begley

Posted on 04/26/2017 5:16:58 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas is spending record amounts on transportation, but lawmakers worried it is not enough are considering extending a controversial program that’s helped spread tollways through some of the state’s largest areas.

A bill approved this week by a House committee would give the Texas Department of Transportation a chance to add six additional projects, including the widening of Interstate 45 north of I-10 and a long-planned Hempstead Tollway, meant to relieve traffic on U.S. 290 with the potential for a commuter rail corridor.

The bill, by state Rep. Larry Phillips, R-Sherman, would also allow TxDOT or regional officials the chance to build a dozen other projects.

Without an extension, the state’s authority to ink the special agreements - which typically cede control of a tollway to a private entity that then recoup its costs through revenues - runs out in August.

Phillips said earlier this month highway officials need “every tool” to complete some of the long-sought projects in Texas cities. The agreements offer a rare chance for state and local money to tap private investment, something the Trump Administration has touted.

“What I’m hearing from Washington is that is the way things are going,” Phillips said of the public-private investment strategy. “It provides opportunities for us at the state and local level... If we don’t, we’re going to sit behind the eight ball and wonder why we didn’t get our share of the money.”

Others were less enthusiastic.

“I am not against all tolls, just bad ones,” said Rep. Joe Pickett, D- El Paso, the only member of the transportation committee to oppose Phillips’ bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
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1 posted on 04/26/2017 5:16:58 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Group lobbies Texas lawmakers for toll-free highways (4/17)
2 posted on 04/26/2017 5:34:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: BobL

Of possible interest.


3 posted on 04/26/2017 5:34:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I avoid toll roads. Big deal, I drive 10 extra minutes. It’s the principle.

If Texas would deport all the illegals, we wouldn’t need new roads built.


4 posted on 04/26/2017 5:41:06 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This wouldn’t be a bad thing if the legislature were looking toward future maintenance of exiting highways. In fact, it would show excellent foresight.
But noooooo, that money has to be spent RIGHT AWAY!


5 posted on 04/26/2017 5:57:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Charge tolls for everyone going in and out of Austin, San Antonio, and Houston.


6 posted on 04/26/2017 6:26:36 AM PDT by georgiarat (The most expensive thing in the world is a cheap Army and Navy. - Carl Vinson)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t know the last road built in Texas that wasn’t a toll road. The tolls are too expensive and never go away. The bridge over the ship channel has been a toll bridge for close to 30 years with no end in sight even though it was supposed to become free once it was paid for.


7 posted on 04/26/2017 7:01:21 AM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: bgill; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“I avoid toll roads. Big deal, I drive 10 extra minutes. It’s the principle.”


The only toll road that I’ve ever used here in TX is SH 130, which allows me to bypass Austin (ALWAYS a good thing, from multiple different perspectives) while legally going 85 MPH (and, by careful rationalization and observation, to go 100 without attracting much attention). Saved over an hour even a 4 AM on my last trip north...and, as a bonus, I got to tell my wife that “I have to go this fast. Everyone else is, and it is differences in speed that cause accidents.” :>)

But otherwise, yeah, I avoid toll roads like the plague. I paid enough tolls in the NY/NJ area to last a couple of lifetimes, and a good part of that money goes to corrupt politicians, unions and the mob (but I repeat myself).


8 posted on 04/26/2017 7:03:54 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Smittie

The I-30 toll road between Dallas and Ft. Worth went away. Now it’s named Tom Landry Freeway.


9 posted on 04/26/2017 7:33:51 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Toll road pricing is ridiculous. I have the North Texas Express lanes. With the bottle neck that has existed forever at the 121/820 interchange, you would have thought it would help; however, no one wants to pay that kind of rate. If I took it RT, I would be paying $14+ per day and it still dumps me out in bottle neck traffic. I save myself the pocketbook pillaging and take the “free” highway.


10 posted on 04/26/2017 7:38:36 AM PDT by DallasGal (When God provides you a path to happiness, don't turn your back on his grace and mercy)
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Wear: 500 more Texas toll roads? Activist’s claim doesn’t hold up
11 posted on 04/26/2017 7:46:48 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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They ought to be flush with cash. I keep getting other people’s toll road bills. So I have to waste my time and money going to the DMV getting documents to prove the bills they keep sending me are fraudulent. When do I get paid for my time and effort?

They just figure most people won’t fight their fraud and pay up. Thieves all.


12 posted on 04/26/2017 7:49:10 AM PDT by Clay Moore (JRandomFreeper, SWAMPSNIPER RIP)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If they have enough money for roads & still want more toll roads,maybe they are trying to enlarge some other slush funds. This could go on forever.


13 posted on 04/26/2017 10:12:07 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Part of the problem is we have too many economic refugees coming from other states. By the time an upgrade to a highway is complete, it's obsolete...see TX HWY 114 as an example.

D/FW adds about 150,000 new residents every year. Toll roads are a reality, particularly the one that bypasses Austin. What irks me are toll roads that are parking lots during rush hour.

14 posted on 04/26/2017 10:22:27 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Tollroads ... 15 minutes of highway spped, interrupted by 30 minutes in line to toss coins in a bucket, or longer if you did not have the correct change, day or night, good weather or crap.

There goes your gas mileage.

There goes your calculated time of travel to granny’s house
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First time a snowflake has to open their window in a summer’s not-quite-tropical-storm battering the area, they will freak out like a Southern Californian when the rain comes after washing and waxing the car.

Now, in this day of idiocy on the roads, you get somebody who doesn’t understand the language, holding up the line.

Or .... the automatic toll machine malfunctions, and the gate does not raise?


15 posted on 04/26/2017 10:52:33 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Texans rally against toll roads (4/18)
16 posted on 04/26/2017 1:03:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Toll roads need to be abolish thru out the country!!
They will want to charge by the mile and the technology is here to do it. Stop that camel’s nose from getting in the tent.
We pay enough taxes as is.


17 posted on 04/26/2017 3:23:31 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Terry L Smith
Tollroads ... 15 minutes of highway spped, interrupted by 30 minutes in line to toss coins in a bucket

No buckets - or change makers - on the toll roads around here. And if you slow down to 70 in non-rush hour traffic, you'll likely experience some road rage.

18 posted on 04/26/2017 4:28:30 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: bgill
I avoid toll roads. Big deal, I drive 10 extra minutes. It’s the principle.

Where I live and work, it's a difference of 40 minutes (not 40 minutes, but an ADDITIONAL 40 minutes).

That almost 1.5 hours a day is worth the $3k a year for me to spend with my family each day.
19 posted on 04/27/2017 6:56:09 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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