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The Democratic Party Is in Worse Shape Than You Thought
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Posted on 06/08/2017 6:48:31 AM PDT by Stopthethreat

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To: Lockbox; GOPJ; Bikkuri; Jane Long; DollyCali; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; ...

NY Times: The Democratic Party Is in Worse Shape Than You Thought,


61 posted on 06/08/2017 9:42:50 AM PDT by Liz ( Liberalism: stnding on your head, then telling the world that it's upside down.)
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To: outofsalt
What the autopsy reveals is that Democratic losses among working class voters were not limited to whites...these white voters’ views on immigration and race are in direct conflict with fundamental Democratic tenets.

I noticed that too, and it shows that despite clear evidence Democrat leaders will never give up the identity politics model even though it's killing them. It really isn't about race fundamentally but they're grimly determined to treat it no other way.

The Democrats don’t have a “white working-class problem.” They have a “working-class problem,” which progressives have been reluctant to address honestly or boldly.

This analyst is correct. I noticed that as soon as I saw the unfiltered numbers from the election returns. And the comment about the alarm over a confiscatory government applies throughout the working class because they're the ones who will be fleeced. An entertainment celebrity who brings in millions a year doesn't care, black, white, or otherwise. A working class stiff does, black, white, or otherwise, because it's his paycheck that's getting gobbled up.

I tried to make this point to some liberal acquaintances the other day and nobody was listening. A guy in the corner I knew from one of my history classes laughs and says very loudly, "You might as well save your breath." Somebody asked him what he meant and he said, "I'm a Marxist. He's a Trump voter. And we're telling you the same thing. What is it going to take for you idiots to [bleeping] listen?" All he got was the cow-eyes. They're not listening.

How bad is it? HERE is an article from a WaPo editor who recommends hospice treatment for the entire white working class. As in, "we know you're dying out and may as well make it as comfortable as possible." Apart from this not-so-veiled reference to managed genocide, the attitude expressed is that of an elitist who feels the future of the country is urban, brown, and dependent. And that portion of the urban and brown population that does happen to be working class moved to Trump for precisely the reasons they're finding it so hard to fathom.

Identity politics is fine for slicing up the economic pie, which is why socialists are so very fond of it, but it doesn't work very well for those who have to bake the pie in the first place, whatever race, sex, sexual preference, or whatever other class distinction du jour is echoing among the cognoscenti in the media. It's all about the paycheck and putting shoes on the kids, guys, and if you're fortunate enough not to have to worry about that you might want to listen to those who do.

62 posted on 06/08/2017 10:03:54 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Liz

Here’s hoping that Clinton runs again and finishes it off.


63 posted on 06/08/2017 10:18:21 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Billthedrill
"Identity politics is fine for slicing up the economic pie, which is why socialists are so very fond of it, but it doesn't work very well for those who have to bake the pie in the first place"

So long as you understand that you will bake the pie cake you'll be fine.

64 posted on 06/08/2017 10:18:22 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: outofsalt

LOL! That’s a fact. Turns out “from each according to his ability” ends in “or else.” Details, details...


65 posted on 06/08/2017 10:24:07 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: central_va
Isn't THAT the truth. These 'folks' aren't even fit to take out the d'rat garbage. They are nothing more than a roadside chain-gang. I'm thoroughly embarrassed by them, how about you?

MAGA, with 'em or without 'em, MAGA!, DJT

66 posted on 06/08/2017 10:28:24 AM PDT by V K Lee (DJT: "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war. ")
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To: Stopthethreat

I forced myself to read many of the comments after the story. These people really are insane. They are socialism’s true believers and useful idiots.


67 posted on 06/08/2017 10:47:11 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: blueunicorn6

Remember the Democrat mantra:

1 PROMISE EVERYTHING
2 DO NOTHING
3 BLAME OTHERS


68 posted on 06/08/2017 10:58:30 AM PDT by Stopthethreat
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To: Bonemaker

I’d put in Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, MO and Kansas City, MO on that list, too.


69 posted on 06/08/2017 11:22:40 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Stopthethreat

They take Salon.com as the voice of moderation and reason, and as absolute truth. When people don’t agree, then they scream at them that they’re hateful, fearful, stupid and uneducated.


70 posted on 06/08/2017 12:12:15 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Liz; Lockbox; GOPJ; Bikkuri; Jane Long; DollyCali; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; ...

“NY Times: The Democratic Party Is in Worse Shape Than You Thought,”

Meanwhile, are Ryan & McConnell even ALIVE? Oh yes........I read at Breitbart that both are having a “love in” with Flake, et al with Romney in Salt Lake City to pow wow on how to completely SABOTAGE the balance of Trump’s agenda (As if they haven’t already done that).


71 posted on 06/08/2017 12:13:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep they are here, been all over the news...

The ‘Mormon Mafia’ is at it again...


72 posted on 06/08/2017 12:16:12 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Utah toasting all the has beens once again. As IF Romney know squat about squat. So he’s won a few, he failed at winning the BIG ONE.


73 posted on 06/08/2017 12:20:12 PM PDT by V K Lee (DJT: "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war. ")
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To: HarleyLady27

Thanks for the confirmation.


74 posted on 06/08/2017 12:26:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: V K Lee

Romney knew enough to toss the election to Obama, but that’s about it.


75 posted on 06/08/2017 12:27:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Liz

Great news!


76 posted on 06/08/2017 1:31:03 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Liz

Dems follow Hillary and Obama. They believe Goldman Sachs etc. will solve all their problems. Let’s see, how much did Hillary have to spend on the 2016 election?


77 posted on 06/08/2017 1:41:06 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Why didn't the FBI examine DNC servers?)
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To: Stopthethreat

There are some that will never get it, and they’ll vote rat even after they are dead.


78 posted on 06/08/2017 6:27:19 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The democrat party can’t be in worse shape then I think they are... my guess is they’re finished.


79 posted on 06/09/2017 8:17:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Under your mercy we take refuge...from the danger deliver us... - Marian prayer)
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To: Kickass Conservative

The people democrats have lost are lost for decades... democrats can’t turn this one around in time to save the party.

http://prospect.org/article/democrats%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98working-class-problem%E2%80%99

“Democrats don’t have a “white working-class problem.” They have a “working-class problem,” which progressives have been reluctant to address honestly or boldly. The fact is that Democrats have lost support with all working-class voters across the electorate, including the Rising American Electorate of minorities, unmarried women, and millennials. “


80 posted on 06/09/2017 8:31:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (Under your mercy we take refuge...from the danger deliver us... - Marian prayer)
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