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SHOULD DEMOCRATS MOVE TO THE CENTER? MARK PENN OP-ED INSPIRES FURIOUS DEBATE
Newsweak ^ | 7/06/17 | ALEXANDER NAZARYAN

Posted on 07/09/2017 5:24:03 AM PDT by Libloather

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Reviews of Thursday’s op-ed weren’t much better, with Slate calling it “asinine,” for example. A noted a HuffPost headline read, “It’s 2017. Democrats Should Really Just Stop Taking Mark Penn’s Advice.”

Dan Pfeiffer, a former top Obama aide, told me, “There can and should be a robust debate in the party about where we go in the post-Obama era. I don’t pretend to know the right path forward, but I know it isn’t a poll-driven, corporatist path.”

Twitter users weren’t much kinder:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2018issues; 2018midterms; center; democrats; dncstrategy; hillary; penn
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Lanae Erickson Hatalsky, one of the authors of the report, told him bluntly, “You can’t get to a House majority without winning over Trump voters.” That seems to have been the point Penn and Stein wanted to advance.

Now RATS want to embrace the deplorables? It maybe too late for all that. Give us another dose of Mad Max, please!

1 posted on 07/09/2017 5:24:03 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Rats shoukd move to Venezuela to see the outcome of their policy wishes.


2 posted on 07/09/2017 5:25:15 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Libloather

They cannot do so unless they repudiate the hard left.

Throwing the hard left under the bus will not give the demodogs a net gain in votes.


3 posted on 07/09/2017 5:26:26 AM PDT by Nicholas Sharpe (An old Sea Dog)
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To: Libloather

No! They’d be selling out! Democrats need to reject those sell-out DINO’s and stick to progressive principals! Don’t let the phobes win.


4 posted on 07/09/2017 5:28:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Libloather
"Should Democrats move to the center ?"

Well, if they did they would be to the right of most Republicans nowadays.!

5 posted on 07/09/2017 5:32:31 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Nicholas Sharpe

The Democrat Party has become dominated by the bomb throwing, frothing at the mouth, hard Left and they are incapable of distancing themselves from it because it’s who they are now.


6 posted on 07/09/2017 5:35:01 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: Libloather

A pig w/lipstick is still just a pig no matter what!!!!!!!!!!
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7 posted on 07/09/2017 5:36:39 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Libloather

The task of the Democrats is to drag the center relentlessly leftward. They’ve been at it successfully for many decades. Their only mistake recently was to push too hard, too fast.


8 posted on 07/09/2017 5:36:51 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: Libloather

SHOULD DEMOCRATS MOVE TO THE CENTER? MARK PENN OP-ED INSPIRES FURIOUS DEBATE


SHOULD DEMOCRATS PRETEND TO MOVE TO THE CENTER?

Fixed it!

And you know they will. Rahm Emmanuel helped the Dems do just that in the 2006 election when they took back the House and Senate.


9 posted on 07/09/2017 5:39:17 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: Bayan

The Dems need to go further left.


10 posted on 07/09/2017 5:50:12 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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“The Dems need to go further left.”

Definitely. And keep Pelosi as Grand Poobah as long as possible. Even if she strokes out and/or goes home to be with Satan, go full Weekend At Bernie’s and keep her front and center. We need her.


11 posted on 07/09/2017 5:54:40 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: Libloather

Like the myth of Mohammedism and “moderate” Mohammedism.


12 posted on 07/09/2017 5:57:01 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: Libloather
Why don't you try listening to America for once, instead of your communist masters? Do you seriously think The People want men in womens' bathrooms? Queer "marriage?" BLM thuggery? Corrupt unions? Cradle-to-grave welfare? Illegal immigrants? Infanticide? Hairy feminazis? Tax-and-spend deficits? A weak military? International apologism? Religious persecution? Muslimes?

Those are YOUR values, not OURS. Wake the f... up!

[Addressed to the Dims, not to the poster.]

13 posted on 07/09/2017 6:00:05 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: MayflowerMadam

Instead of moving to the “center”, how about Kenya or Somalia, anywhere but here.


14 posted on 07/09/2017 6:00:13 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Nicholas Sharpe

——Throwing the hard left under the bus will not give the demodogs a net gain in votes.——

You are correct

There are far too many hard left to fit under the bus and there may be an awful lot of not so far left that absolutely won’t fit under the bus.


15 posted on 07/09/2017 6:01:07 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Libloather
The dems are in a bind. To move to the center with a candidate such as Jim Webb would be to alienate their radical left-wing, blm & sjw base who hate the US and all white, male, heterosexual Christians with a passion. That base might flock to a 3rd party candidate like Jill Stein or whoever the greens put up as a 'candidate'.

If they fail to move to the center, they will likely never win back the Midwest or the 'rust belt' states.

I fully expect the dems to double down and nominate a Corey Booker or Kamala Harris type to energize their black and leftist base, thereby relegating them to coastal party status.

The democrat party of JFK is long gone. That has become abundantly clear many times in the past few years. During the primaries in 2016, when Jim Webb committed the mortal sin of saying that "all lives matter" when asked about blm, the media and the democrat base excoriated him.

As much as the democrats hate the white working class; that is still the majority in the US.(at least until they flood us with as much of the 3rd world as possible)

16 posted on 07/09/2017 6:06:11 AM PDT by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: Libloather

They can say they’re moving to the center. They’ll be lying.


17 posted on 07/09/2017 6:07:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was ObamaThanks surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Libloather

They’ll campaign as centrists as they often do and then return to their far-Left positions after taking their seats, same as they always do.

Democrat strategy is “how can we fool them this time?”


18 posted on 07/09/2017 6:12:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( Mr. Comey, did you engage in or know of ANY OTHER leaks?)
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To: Libloather

No, they need to move further to the left. They need to embrace their Communism.


19 posted on 07/09/2017 6:14:50 AM PDT by tiki
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Should Democrats move to the center?

What exactly is "the center?" They are such radical far left extremists that any phony moderating of their stances on a whole host of issues would barely bring them back into the human race.

20 posted on 07/09/2017 6:16:26 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (The question about fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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