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Why a Warming Arctic May Be Causing Colder U.S. Winters
National Geographic ^ | July 11, 2017 | By Sarah Gibbens

Posted on 07/11/2017 11:36:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Billthedrill

Globull warming has to be the reason for any weather or climate event or it is discredited. Lack of sunspots are why we are having colder temperatures. That big hot ball in the sky is the main driver of our climate.


41 posted on 07/11/2017 12:15:17 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When the next Ice Age comes, these idiots will still blame global warming. It’s their religion, and they are steadfast believers.


42 posted on 07/11/2017 12:16:02 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Goebbel Warming.


43 posted on 07/11/2017 12:17:30 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

By “Al Gore and Fry (The Science Guy)THE WEATHER Guy”?


44 posted on 07/11/2017 12:18:11 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wtf, if we had warmer winter, you all know what they would say cause it
When we have colder winter they say the same thing
This is why I never believe this kind of sh)&t


45 posted on 07/11/2017 12:18:32 PM PDT by Lee25
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To: aquila48

nice!


46 posted on 07/11/2017 12:19:15 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The "warming Arctic" is colder than normal.

And Greenland recently recorded a 50-year low temperature.


47 posted on 07/11/2017 12:22:43 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I remember Time Mag had the issue about the killer ice age soon to come. I was a kid and it scared the crap out of me.

Schools now show Algorz BS propaganda piece Inconvenient Truth as if it's settled science and Algorz is the authority of it.

48 posted on 07/11/2017 12:34:17 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: digger48

My observation is we get 2 warm-ish winters and then a *normal* one.

But I remember years when the zero and below temps arrived in November and clamped down the entire winter. Events like 19 straight days below zero in November and -35 in December and January.

Hope not to experience that this coming year.


49 posted on 07/11/2017 12:34:25 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: rightwingcrazy
we’ll adjust our models so that they can predict the past correctly.

That's actually the best way to create a model that works. The problem is that their models so far don't "predict" the past correctly. So they don't talk about the assumptions they've built in, and stay focused on their empty assertions and ad hominem arguments.

50 posted on 07/11/2017 12:38:57 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The study found that unusually cold temperatures in northern North America and lower precipitation in the south central U.S. all coincided with periods of warmer Arctic weather.

Cold fronts move south and warm fronts move north as they have been doing for thousands of years. Below normal temperatures in the south are usually accompanied by above normal temperatures in the north.

The study is a big stupid, government paid for, nothing.

51 posted on 07/11/2017 12:48:45 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Billthedrill

Any of these Warming Arctic nuts ever been to the Arctic , when it’s cold it’s freezing and when it’s warmer you get eaten by bugs


52 posted on 07/11/2017 12:49:11 PM PDT by butlerweave (it's the children are)
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To: SamuraiScot

“That’s actually the best way to create a model that works.”

It’s a start, but if the processes underlying the data are not properly understood, then they’ll never do better than to “predict” the past. As you suggest, they’re not even accomplishing that correctly.


53 posted on 07/11/2017 12:56:29 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m old enough to remember when National Geographic was a scientifically trustworthy organization. That was long, long ago, before it threw rationalism aside and became a full-throated feel-good environmental advocacy bullhorn. Sad.


54 posted on 07/11/2017 12:56:36 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: ClearCase_guy

OMG! I was thinking exactly the same thing! :-))


55 posted on 07/11/2017 12:56:37 PM PDT by sneakers (It's DEMOCRAT - and not DemocratIC. There's nothing Democratic about the DEMOCRAT party)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sixty years ago I read that if you exploded a nuclear bomb in the Arctic the winters would be much colder and wetter.

I mentioned that where I worked, forty years ago, and they laughed me to scorn.
Now I feel vindicated. think I will dig up my old boss and laugh in his face.


56 posted on 07/11/2017 12:57:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My theory is that global warming is causing there to be a spike in the number of ju-ju bugs being birthed and that the increase in the number of wing flaps associated with that spike in ju-ju bugs is adding additional large scale turbulence to the atmosphere thereby causing the typical Arctic air mass to move south and the typical North American air mass to move north.


57 posted on 07/11/2017 1:44:41 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just by way of comparison to the snowball story, another US Senator rigged a similar stunt by holding a hearing on a hot, humid day and turning OFF the A/C at a hearing. That was Al Gore in 1988 when the Arctic was doomed to melt in a few years.


58 posted on 07/11/2017 1:45:59 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: reformedliberal

December here was cold as a Hillarys t*t

But after the first of the year, the ground frost left and never returned.

The ice fishermen got just a few days in the bays in late Dec.

Been working outside for 45 years. In our business, 6 inches of frost is a Godsend, compared to mud. 4 years ago, we had 18” of frost.


59 posted on 07/11/2017 1:49:13 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Global Warming Theory is an extremely robust scientific theory. Every observation of everything offers absolute proof of the Global Warming Theory. The ancient Romans had similar science. They could divine the future by observing goat entrails. Goat entrails also offer absolute proof of Global Warming.


60 posted on 07/11/2017 1:52:30 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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