Posted on 08/03/2017 2:22:39 AM PDT by calvincaspian
California could secede from the United States. Signatures are being hurriedly gathered for a 2018 ballot initiative that would begin the process of independence for the Golden State.
Awesome. Break a leg. I wholeheartedly endorse “#Calexit” and here’s why you should too.
About a third of the entire welfare population of the United States lives in California. Let’s make that the Independent Country of California’s problem, not ours.
An estimated 2,350,000 illegal immigrants (about the population of Connecticut) reside there too. In the new California they can all be legalized and won’t have to dwell “in the shadows.”
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Nobody is going to die to keep a state in the union.
That would be 10% or $1.9T. they could float bonds and easily make that up.
I admire a straight line thinker who gets directly to the point.
Thanks.
Did it ever occur to you that if Californian becomes a country its citizen would still pay the same amount of federal taxes to Sacramento?
The only downside I see to a Calexit would be the cost of a border wall . . .
I didn’t say secession was a hostile act. I don’t believe any state should be forcibly kept in the union. My response was to someone who postulated if an independent California started to make warlike maneuvers against the U.S. by aligning with known and dangerous enemies and bringing in gang members en masse as some sort of mercenary force. That would have to be dealt with and swiftly.
What is the United States ?
Let them vote themselves out.... then send in the troops.
A 20-year period of Reconstruction should be enough for us to win all national elections. Give them some Republican U.S. Senators - just like the North did to the South.
An aside: Nobody mentions the political ‘fallout’ of a war with North Korea. Take out Los Angeles and New York and we’ll be in a Republican country years to come. All of the Democrats are in the big cities. Essentially a war with North Korean is a ‘no lose’ proposition.
Ok, I get it.
This talk of secession is really amusing. Are we in 1861? Then the issue was slavery; it was inhuman to treat people that way. Today the issue is illegal immigration; it is inhuman to deny them entry.
In 1861, the preservation of the Union was paramount; today who cares about the union? The Confederate States could not be allowed to secede; today, CA can go and take OR and WA with you.
From 1861-1865, we fought the bloodiest war in our history. The animosities still live on. Today, would a shot be fired? I think not.
Lessee....California Hollyweirdos get to pay 100% tax to feed, house, educate and medicate their illegal house help, in the lifestyle they’ve (illegals) have become accustomed to.
What could go wrong?
Meanwhile, the US Southern border MAGA fence just got longer....by adding another 1,000 + miles (to the north, up to and S of Oregon).
Go, Calexit!
Another way is to give each person three choices of where they want to live. Each state would determine the net number of people (Ins - Outs) they would accept. Computer simulations could easily determine population shifts and their effects (jobs, house prices, Congressional delegations, etc.) Then people can move to their new states with one coming back. Everybody gets the political landscape they want.
Naive, yes. Practical, probably not. But it’s novel.
Don’t forget a wall; they’ve already exported too many of their citizens to Montana, Colorado and Arizona. It won’t take long for The Republic of California to become Venezuela of the North...
Calexit plays well in the bay area and LA but in counties away from the coast (most of the state) such as Lassen and Shasta not so much. These most likely bolt from the country of California and rejoin the US.
Let Kalifornia secede.
Then, invade it with Fed troops, kill anyone who resists, blockade the Kalifornia ports, destroy the road and rail system, burn the capital city of Sacramento to the ground, and drive the rich from their coastal estates while liberating their servants.
After it’s all over, restore the Kalifornia government with thousands of “carpetbaggers” in the name of “reconstruction.”
There is historical precedent.....
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The left is turning California into a Feudal State. Extremely rich and privileged along with extremely poor. The middle class has simply left. That is simply an unsustainable state of affairs.
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Not just the left, nor just CA. GOVT, at all levels, is the culprit.
Neither the Fed, State nor local follow the Constitution, let alone the LAW. Else, we wouldn’t be having these ‘issue(s)\problem(s)’ to begin with.
Though we would still have the ‘rich’ vs. ‘poor’, we’d sure as hell we wouldn’t be hinting at feudal living (which, IMO, is already here).
But at least Liga MX would gain some new markets.
“..Let them vote themselves out.... then send in the troops....”
so you believe our country is a involuntary tyranny like Stalin’s Soviet Union ?
Uhhh, better call it all off now since the International Olympic Committee has selected L.A. to host the 2028 Summer Olympics. They should wait until all of that is over before they attempt to secede. The USAF, Navy, Marine and Coast Guard might be used to the idea by then. However, it’s hard to figure which way the California National Guard and Air Guard might go if Jerry Brown is still their Governor and Commander In Chief.
brown is leaving too and there will be another idiot less educated maybe less of a zeal, but sure to be very liberal take his place.
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