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Rumors Fly That Russia Has Dropped "The Father of All Bombs" in Syria
The Drive ^ | SEPTEMBER 7, 2017 | JOSEPH TREVITHICK

Posted on 09/07/2017 10:13:50 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

A rumor has appeared on social media suggesting that Russia has dropped its most powerful non-nuclear bomb, nicknamed the Father of All Bombs, on ISIS terrorists in Syria. If confirmed, this would be the first time Russia has employed this weapon, which is has otherwise revealed very little about, in combat.

On Sept. 7, 2017, posts appeared on Twitter alleging that witnesses and activists near the Syrian city of Deir ez-Zor, had seen the weapon in action.. As yet, though, there has been no reporting in English language Russian news outlets or an official statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense.

There are few concrete details about the FOAB, formally known as the Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP), and almost no official pictures or video of the bomb – one Tweet even used a picture of a mockup of the Soviet hydrogen bomb Tsar Bomba instead. It apparently uses a high explosive filler boosted with a mixture of aluminium powder and ethylene oxide, components common to other known thermobaric weapons, to create the high-intensity blast and associated shockwave.

The Russians say the complete weapon weighs just over 14,000 pounds and can create a blast equivalent to 44 tons of TNT. This would make it lighter, but more devastating that than U.S. Air Force’s 22,000 pound GBU-43/B Mother of All Bombs (MOAB), which the Russians were clearly referencing with their own nickname.

“Tests show its effectiveness and capabilities are comparable to nuclear weapons,” Russian General Colonel Alexander Rukshin, then Deputy Chief of the country’s Armed Forces General Staff, said after the first field test on Sept. 11, 2007. “At the same time, the use of this weapon doesn’t damage or pollute the environment.”

Russia claims that the Tu-160 Blackjack super-sonic heavy bomber is the primary means to delivering this massive bomb, but that seems highly unlikely. Official film of the test is heavily edited to show a Tu-160’s bomb bay opening, before cutting abruptly to what looks like the bomb falling way straight out the back of different plane.

It is much more likely that an Il-76 cargo plane, or even the larger An-124, would carry the weapon to the target area and releases its out its rear cargo door like other air-dropped cargo. This is similar to the arrangement the U.S. Air Force uses to drop the GBU-43/B and had employed with the previous BLU-82/B Daisy Cutter.

Like the BLU-82/B the FOAB uses a parachute to slow its descent and allow the delivery aircraft to fly low and escape the blast. The Russians claim the bomb is guided by their own GLONASS satellite navigation system, similar to GPS, but this delivery profile strongly suggests the weapon is actually unguided.

Otherwise, the aircraft could drop it accurately while flying at a safe altitude and have no need for the parachute beyond possibly initially stabilizing the weapon in a downward orientation. The American MOAB, unlike the older Daisy Cutter, is GPS-guided and does not use a retarding parachute or other similar system.

The U.S. military employed the MOAB for the first time in combat in Afghanistan in April 2017 on a tunnel network occupied by members of ISIS’ franchise in the country, known as ISIS-Khorasan or ISIS-K. The main terrorist group in Syria and Iraq is also known to favor subterranean networks to escape air and artillery strikes and move around undetected, so it is possible that the Russians could have decided to use it near Deir ez-Zor for similar reasons.

In August 2017, the Syrian government claimed it had finally begun to link up with besieged government forces in a portion of the city, which ISIS has surrounded since April 2014. The regime of brutal dictator Bashar Al Assad officially declared the siege over on Sept. 5, 2017, but fighting in and around the city continued according to witnesses and activists in the country.

If the reports of the Russian air strike turn out to be true, it is also possible that dropping the FOAB was a message intended for another party. U.S.-supported Syrian rebels belonging to the Syrian Democratic Forces have been suggesting they are on the verge of beginning an offensive into Deir ez-Zor governorate, ostensibly to attack ISIS.

However, those operations could potentially put them in a position to eventually launch attacks against the Syrian government and its allies. The massive Russian strike could be seen as a warning to any anti-regime forces interested in moving into the area as ISIS falls back.

Regardless of whether or not the Russians have actually dropped a FOAB in Syria, the Kremlin has already decided to use the country as a proving ground to show off its latest weaponry, even if they're poorly suited to the situation at hand. So, it's very likely that if the FOAB is indeed operational, we could eventually see it used in the war-torn country.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; foab; moab; russia
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1 posted on 09/07/2017 10:13:50 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bunch of misogynistic patriarchal heteronormativists!


2 posted on 09/07/2017 10:21:45 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Russia claims that the Tu-160 Blackjack super-sonic heavy bomber is the primary means to delivering this massive bomb, but...It is much more likely that an Il-76 cargo plane, or even the larger An-124, would carry the weapon to the target area...

“The Russians claim the bomb is guided by their own GLONASS satellite navigation system, similar to GPS, but this delivery profile strongly suggests the weapon is actually unguided.”

Well, what exactly ARE we supposed to believe about this?


3 posted on 09/07/2017 10:22:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I hope that the Russians killed a lot of koranimals.


4 posted on 09/07/2017 10:22:34 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; All

Sure won’t get the transgender mother of all bombs out of that country.


5 posted on 09/07/2017 10:46:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I don’t believe it. It would have shown up as one heck of an earthquake.


6 posted on 09/07/2017 10:55:35 PM PDT by Revel
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Good place for a battlefield test
Syria seems close to cleaning out this area with the aid of the Russian Air Force


7 posted on 09/07/2017 11:14:24 PM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

No mention of weapon used, but RT are just reporting “Russian airstrike destroys bunker [underground command center] with senior ISIS commanders near Deir ez-Zor” which would tally.


8 posted on 09/07/2017 11:53:10 PM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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www.rt.com/news/402416-russian-strike-isis-bunker-commanders
9 posted on 09/07/2017 11:55:36 PM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: silverleaf

Trump said today at his new conference with Kuwait emir Sheikh Sabah Al Ahmad Al Sabah, that we have been decimating ISIS. We have done more in eight months than Zer0 did in eight years.


10 posted on 09/08/2017 12:07:32 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: chris37
Bunch of misogynistic patriarchal heteronormativists!

That's the first thing I thought of. If they call it the father of all bombs, they are obviously a bunch of insensitive, misogynistic low life scum bags. /s. 😀😆😄🇵🇭

11 posted on 09/08/2017 12:13:13 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
“At the same time, the use of this weapon doesn’t damage or pollute the environment.”

This one statement made me doubt the entire article. A J school grad must have written this article.

12 posted on 09/08/2017 12:44:17 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: chris37; Salamander

That’s OK.

We’re working on a non-cis genderfluid polyamorous non-specific nurturing figure of a thing that self identifies as a bomb... Most of the time, anyway.


13 posted on 09/08/2017 12:53:08 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Works for me.


14 posted on 09/08/2017 2:33:00 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: texas booster
12: "the use of this weapon doesn’t damage or pollute the environment"

Well, the Hazmat team would probably disagree. Widespread chunks of ISIS meat and fluids would definitely pollute the environment — however, it's a problem we can live with!
 

15 posted on 09/08/2017 2:38:03 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: texas booster; SJackson; LS; BenLurkin

Because you see, US weapons (like those nasty nuclear bombs “we” (racist capitalist white males) used against the Japanese (and might need to use against the North Korean Asian innocents) to end WWII and save lives) DID damage the environment!

Propaganda desguised as news media.


16 posted on 09/08/2017 3:47:37 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They should drop one of those fuel air bombs on the next hurricane that develops out in the Atlantic...

...a large explosion right in the eye of the storm may knock it out.


17 posted on 09/08/2017 3:57:00 AM PDT by exPBRrat (.)
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To: exPBRrat

You have no idea of the scale of a hurricane. One of those bombs would so zip, nada, not a thing.

Here, go read up a bit. Nukes are not even powerful enough.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/11/hurricanes-weather-history-nuclear-weapons/


18 posted on 09/08/2017 5:03:29 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

so=do


19 posted on 09/08/2017 5:04:21 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is theirs bigger then our Mother of all bombs? Is there anything bigger, like maybe a Grandfather of all bombs?


20 posted on 09/08/2017 5:06:21 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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