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Violent Newberry rival groups clashed in Columbia’s Vista over music industry disputes
The State ^ | 9/18/2017 | Cynthia Roldan

Posted on 09/18/2017 4:54:54 PM PDT by Gamecock

COLUMBIA, S.C.

An ongoing music industry-related rivalry between two “very violent” Newberry County groups led to Saturday’s shootout in the Vista that injured eight, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said Monday.

The names and origins of the groups and what precisely precipitated the shooting outside of the Empire Supper Club remain unclear.

Lott and Columbia Police Chief Skip Holbrook have said the groups are not gangs – just rivals.

“They are two groups that are not associated with traditional gangs,” Lott said. “But they are rival groups that are related to the music industry and clubs that are engaged in violence.”

He declined to be more specific.

Columbia police spokeswoman Jennifer Timmons would say only that the motive in the shooting remains under investigation.

The groups have been at odds for about a year, said Newberry County Sheriff Lee Foster. Investigators at the sheriff’s office, along with counterparts in the Newberry city police department, have been trying to make cases related to other crimes, including shootings, Foster said.

“It’s been very difficult ... the victims in many of the cases refuse to cooperate,” Foster said. “And anybody who may know who (the shooters are) will not come forward in an official capacity because of fear of them.”

Part of the group, for example, shot a man on Sept. 7, Foster said. The man only suffered a contact wound, and he said he didn’t know who did it.

“These are dangerous people,” Foster said. “They’ve become rivals. And they get their hands on guns, and they think that’s the answer.”

Bates, who has an extensive criminal history, also was arrested in 2012 on a charge of attempted murder, according to his police record. Though he was part of the crowd causing the melee, Foster said Bates was not the person who pulled the trigger, so the charge was dismissed.

That danger spilled into the Vista when John Earl Bates, 28, rolled down the window of a dark-colored Ford Mustang and shot at a crowd leaving the club at the corner of Lady and Park streets Saturday around 2:10 a.m., according to warrants.

Maleik Houseal, 22, is accused of firing, too, telling authorities he shot in self-defense. Both men have been charged, with Bates facing seven counts of attempted murder.

Bates shot Houseal and his brother, according to warrants.

Before Bates was captured, he made it to the Vault, a club on Broad River Road, where he was injured by gunfire around 5 a.m., Lott said Monday. Someone then drove Bates in the same Mustang seen at both clubs to the hospital and dropped him off.

The Mustang and a four-door black BMW 3-series are still both sought by police. Columbia police investigators said the BMW has a South Carolina plate, NLB-507, while the Ford Mustang had paper tags. Two other vehicles that police say were involved have been seized.

Newberry Police Chief Roy McClurkin said both rival groups have had incidents against each other in what they consider their turn in both the city and county.

“It’s a problem and we’re working on the problem,” McClurkin said.


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1 posted on 09/18/2017 4:54:55 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

“Group”
“Music Industry”


2 posted on 09/18/2017 4:55:35 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

Rival Zydeco bands.


3 posted on 09/18/2017 4:57:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: Gamecock

Represe’ en Souf Cack.


4 posted on 09/18/2017 4:57:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Gamecock

I think I see the common factor.

5 posted on 09/18/2017 4:57:58 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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6 posted on 09/18/2017 4:58:14 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Menehune56

Unusuall broad, round heads?


7 posted on 09/18/2017 4:59:38 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: upchuck

SC Ping


8 posted on 09/18/2017 4:59:50 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Menehune56
I think I see the common factor.

Me too. Obviously part of the ongoing "dobro vs pedal steel" argument.

Mr. niteowl77

9 posted on 09/18/2017 5:00:31 PM PDT by niteowl77
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To: niteowl77

Dobro. Hands down. ;)


10 posted on 09/18/2017 5:01:27 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Gamecock

“Teens.” No, wait...


11 posted on 09/18/2017 5:07:41 PM PDT by Noumenon (Can you imagine if Islam were NOT the religion of peace?)
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To: Gamecock

Decca vs. Columbia? No one there for Atlantic?


12 posted on 09/18/2017 5:08:01 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Steely Tom

Plan an accordion, go to jail.

That shall be the whole of the law.


13 posted on 09/18/2017 5:09:11 PM PDT by Noumenon (Can you imagine if Islam were NOT the religion of peace?)
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To: Gamecock

You get those altos beefing with the tenors - there’s no telling what might go down.


14 posted on 09/18/2017 5:13:20 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Gamecock
sounds like they are desperately trying NOT to say something...
15 posted on 09/18/2017 5:14:36 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; Menehune56

Negative, it’s the high fade haircut.


16 posted on 09/18/2017 5:29:11 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Gamecock

Nothing good happens after midnight.


17 posted on 09/18/2017 5:29:39 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Yeah, no connection to traditional gangs, just some bands that, in an isolated incident, got their hands on some guns, and started shooting at one another. I mean, after all, it's not as if rap and hip-hop is rooted in violent street gangs, and as we all know, Tupac wasn't really gunned down with automatic "assault-style" weapons, he's still alive, in hiding, that's why he keeps putting out albums. /sarc (just in case someone actually needs that tag)

18 posted on 09/18/2017 5:29:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

/sarc (just in case someone actually needs that tag)
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I need that tag. Mind if I borrow it for awhile?


19 posted on 09/18/2017 5:31:58 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Gamecock

The “Shaped Note Faction” can get mighty vitriolic...


20 posted on 09/18/2017 5:35:51 PM PDT by left that other site
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