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Gunman's brother: 'If a lot of these hotels say they don’t know Steve, they’re lying'
LA Times ^ | 10/4/2017 | Laura J. Nelson and Matt Pearce

Posted on 10/05/2017 6:22:13 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

"We’re wealthy people," Eric Paddock said. "$100,000 isn’t that much money.... He gambled that much through a machine in hours.... He’s got the highest level of membership card at a lot of these [casino] hotels. If a lot of these hotels say they don’t know Steve, they’re lying."

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Paddock remembered his brother as a man who used his money to take care of his family financially. "He helped make me and my family wealthy. I mean, he’s the reason I was able to retire three years ago when I got really burned out doing the job I did," Eric Paddock said.

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"He didn’t have a lot of friends," Paddock continued. "He was a private person. There’s a story about that he’s, ‘ohhhh, he kept his shades closed, and he didn’t talk to me for the first three times he saw me walking in the neighborhood.’ Wow. That makes him really weird, doesn’t it? He was a private guy. That’s why you can’t find out anything about him, that’s why there’s no pictures. Is he such a weirdo because he didn’t have a Facebook page and posted 50,000 damn pictures of himself every day? Who’s weird?"

(snip)

But, of his brother's attack, Paddock said: "This is 100% Steve, did this by himself. People can’t seem to cope with that either. But Steve is a — was a — highly intelligent, highly successful person. He could have done anything he wanted to do. And he did. He made himself wealthy. He made us wealthy. He was a very successful person. He gambled for 20-plus years, successfully. It’s like a job to him. He did it mathematically."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ericpadock; nevada; paddock; stephenpaddock; vegas
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To: jpsb
But Hillary was a guaranteed winner. I think something else triggered him. Sadly I don’t trust gov to ever give us the real scoup.

A smart man could see through all the media propaganda and know the truth. I did. I kept telling my wife and kids that Trump was going to win this because the poll numbers were just crap. The poll numbers in the Swing states were all going for Trump, and in a national election, these are the only states that matter.

It is simply irrelevant if Hillary is winning in New York or California. Those are gimmes. The only states that matter are states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and so on. Trump was winning those, and Mr Stephen Paddock Accountant was intelligent enough to figure that out too.

141 posted on 10/05/2017 8:35:48 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: hoosiermama

Am I the only one that suspects human trafficking /sex trade?


You could be right. Lets look at all the possibilities.

He had a Filipino girlfriend so he could be connected with arms, sex, drug, or Muslim underworld associated with the Philippines.

He came from Texas so the same could be said for gangs that came across the southern boarder with Mexico.

His father was bank robber, so he could have had a connection with the mod, he lives in Vegas, right?

ISIS claims him. I don’t think this is the connection. But the world trade bombers spent a weekend in Vegas before going on their last flight. Maybe they were getting laundered money.

He also worked for the IRS and the post office, I read somewhere. Maybe he was an agent who went hay-wire, or he was a double agent who knew he was about to be caught.

It could go a lot of ways. I just don’t believe the current story. Which suggests he was an accountant who flipped houses and was really, really good at winning machine poker in high stakes VIP rooms where there were no dealers to watch him. And he was very private so he stayed away from other people all the time. He’s never on line and he keeps his shades down all the time. I don’t buy it.


142 posted on 10/05/2017 8:37:33 PM PDT by poinq
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Don’t forget that while he’s sitting there for 8 hr stretches, he’s probably not just watching his machine. He’s noting the machines that are being played and if the heavily used ones have paid out or not.
So while he scrubs his money at a loss, he can tick his odds of winning up a little more than his own machine would allow if he sits down at a machine after someone else has given up on it after a long play and dry spell. If he does it at the right time, no one takes his machine while he does it, if he wins he can go back to it.

The machines don’t care who they pay out to, they just pay out what they are programmed to do, at irregular intervals, which have to be controlled somehow by some algorithm, unless they have squirrels inside randomly pulling strings.
The casino doesn’t care who they pay out to either, all they want is for other gamblers to see someone win enough to keep them salivating...so they probably have a way of making sure the wins are staggered throughout the day to maximize the number of witnesses and to keep up the excitement.

So while he loses over time, which keeps him in good graces with the casino, maybe he doesn’t lose as much as ordinary gamblers that are just hoping and don’t invest so much time and attention to it to care about algorithms or how long it’s been since a machine paid off.

Just a guess- only time I’ve ever gambled was penny gambling on Poker and Michigan Rummy at my folks’ and neighbor’s houses as a kid.


143 posted on 10/05/2017 8:38:14 PM PDT by piasa
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To: bitt
I believe that Steve was furthering the Hitlery/ DemocRATic cause on 'gun control'
why else all those additional weapons which weren't fired, or used at all during this terrorist incident
The weapons surplus was an altruistic attempt to further the DemocRATic ideology of further 'gun control'
because he could afford it financially, and the fact that he was an anti-social loner who felt his voice was left-out of the last election.
144 posted on 10/05/2017 8:39:33 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: af_vet_1981

He was playing poker in the casinos, and was good at it.

My older brother made money playing poker. It was his hobby.


145 posted on 10/05/2017 8:40:10 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: MayflowerMadam; Zhang Fei
Translation: He counted cards.

Impossible. In video poker, the deck is 'shuffled' for each new hand.

What he could have been doing is watching FREQUENCY. The machines take, and take, and take, but they do pay out. It happens in a pattern that would be indiscernible to most of us. If you could predict that frequency, you could wager more and then you might come out ahead. Maybe he had a knack for it.

Most of the time, if you pay in a bunch, you win back some. The longer you play, the better chance of winning something, but in the long run you spend more than you win.

If it was the other way around, there would be no casinos.

146 posted on 10/05/2017 8:45:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Beagle8U
Evidence ?

Not a top tier poker player against real people;
money laundering more likely than beating casinos consistently for 20 years to the sum of mllions

Since you raised a brother, I call:

what games ? How much in earnings annualy and for how many years ?
147 posted on 10/05/2017 8:46:46 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Now maybe I don’t know a large number of wealthy people - but I do know some.
I can’t think of one instance when one of them said outright “I’m wealthy” or “we’re wealthy people”.
Eric just strikes me as trying TOO hard to convince everyone.


148 posted on 10/05/2017 8:53:23 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: af_vet_1981

My Bro only played as a hobby, but he made 1k-2k a month in poker clubs. I think he was playing in the Indian casinos in northern Mich.


149 posted on 10/05/2017 8:55:53 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: poinq

Neither do I something more was going on !


150 posted on 10/05/2017 8:59:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: tatown
I think if Steve was a white nationalist he would not have shot up a country music concert.

Have you listened to country music in the last few years? Most of it doesn't sound a thing like country. When he started shooting it wasn't a regular ol' country type of tune that was playing...

He started shooting right when the band was about to do the hip hop "country" song "Dirt Road Anthem." Think rap but with country words, sung by a guy who is severely constipated and hiccups with a drawl. In my opinion, country rap drove them man insane.

151 posted on 10/05/2017 9:05:14 PM PDT by piasa
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

where the money came from ?

he was some sort of spook. He worked for Gov‘t


152 posted on 10/05/2017 9:05:52 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: Scotswife
Now maybe I don’t know a large number of wealthy people - but I do know some. I can’t think of one instance when one of them said outright “I’m wealthy” or “we’re wealthy people”. Eric just strikes me as trying TOO hard to convince everyone.

There's more to it than that. This was in response to a question about whether financial difficulties had anything to do with massacre. Read the whole article. It's not that long. For copyright reasons, I quoted the bits with the most direct quotes because I felt that was the meat of the article, but there's more informative material at the source.

153 posted on 10/05/2017 9:11:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

How in heck do you mathematically win against slots?


154 posted on 10/05/2017 9:14:20 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: af_vet_1981

Laundering money for crooked politicians maybe.


155 posted on 10/05/2017 9:15:35 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Flag_This

Not sure how true it is. But Psychopaths are supposed to be very selfish. They survive. This guy killed himself. Normally people who go out with a big bang like this, taking a lot of people then their selves, are making a statement. Like all you guys hated me so now your going to get it. Or the world is out to get me so I am going to get them first.

A psychopath can be thought of like a very smart wolf. He wants to live and if he needs to take out another wolf to make that happen he will. He is not interested in the greater good. He is not interested what others think. He just wants to live well and he will do that however he can. He will use people. He will fool people. He does not care what happens to people. He is an animal.

This guy cared for some reason. He went out with a splash. He hurt people and he did it in a very big way. Then he killed himself. There was something going through his mind. There was a plan. And there was a reason, at least in his head.


156 posted on 10/05/2017 9:15:42 PM PDT by poinq
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To: ladyjane
Blackjack?

Blackjack, roulette, poker, slots, all around. Play conservatively, never lost more than $500 total on vacation, have usually won more than that. Usually I do very well at blackjack, playing conservatively. That means steadily increasing my bets during winning streaks and not pulling out too soon. If it's a losing streak get out immediately and find another table or dealer. My wife likes slots more than tables so I join her at that, and usually win. Same principle, if the machine is losing more pulls than winning get out immediately and find another machine. If you're getting a lot of play (meaning enough wins to keep playing without putting in more money) then stick with the machine and increase bets until you're at max bet. Since we like playing for fun and not for the money, we stick to the low denomination machines (penny, nickel, dime, quarter) although sometimes we play the dollar slots. We tend to get 2 or 3 hundred dollar jackpots on the nickel and dime slots. Last month we flew across the country with a connection at Las Vegas airport and made a couple hundred each way during the hour we spent there at the terminal playing slots.

Tables are where you can win big amounts. A few times I've started with $20 on roulette and walked away with $400 on wins. We play for fun and not the money. Seems that if you focus on winning money, you'll instead lose.

I have a sister and her husband who lives in Las Vegas. They're poor but living a good life. (Huh?) They jump around on part-time jobs in hotels and casinos, play poker that gives them most of their money to buy meals and pay rent. I don't rely on gambling to get by; they do and they're happy.

157 posted on 10/05/2017 9:18:18 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: DiogenesLamp

I haven’t seen the movie, but it makes sense his gambling was a front for another method of making money.


158 posted on 10/05/2017 9:30:23 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: SaveFerris

Not if he never talked politics. I didn’t know my father’s political party (although I suspected) until this election.


159 posted on 10/05/2017 9:33:42 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Zhang Fei
You said, “His brain needs to be preserved and examined to diagnose the disorder that led to this, and hopefully treat it in future patients.”
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I thought this at first too, but he shot himself in the head, right? I don't see how they can examine it now. There's not much left. Maybe they can tell something from the fragments, bust most likely not.
160 posted on 10/05/2017 9:36:44 PM PDT by 1lawlady (To G-d be the glory. Great things He has done!)
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