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Communism: A bad idea even in 1844
Dissident ^ | September 15, 2017 | Joshua Dill

Posted on 10/08/2017 5:58:27 PM PDT by re_tail20

Throughout the 20th Century, Karl Marx’s visage often appeared on communist banners in the guise of a mighty, bearded prophet, the first and greatest in an array of great thinkers that also included Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. So it may be slightly odd and amusing to think of him in his mid-20s living in Paris as the editor of a magazine. Digging into the letters and writings that Marx produced in those years, and the writings of those who knew him, always turns up something interesting—and occasionally something utterly fascinating.

The year was 1844. Hoping to unite German and French radicals, Marx and his colleague Arnold Ruge moved with their wives to Paris in order to found a new theoretical journal, the Deutsch-Französische Jahrbücher (German-French Annals). Paris was an exciting and cosmopolitan city, but the intellectual climate was unfamiliar to the two Germans. “Marx and Ruge were simply unfamiliar both with popular politics and with the world outside Germany,” says Gareth Stedman Jones in his new biography of Marx.

Marx’s intellectual formation had taken place in Berlin under the influence of radical, atheistic Hegelianism, which was locked in battle against the conservative, Christian Prussia of King Friedrich Wilhelm IV. In Paris, on the other hand, the most important streams of radical socialism were strongly influenced by Christianity. This was incomprehensible to Marx, who assumed that all this would need to change. He thought that “the whole culture of present-day France must disappear,” in the words of his co-editor Ruge.

Marx and Ruge also had personal problems. In an amusing demonstration of the dubious applicability of their ideas to real life, the co-editors decided to form a Fourierist Phalanstery (a utopian socialist commune) with their wives, but had to call it off after living together for only two weeks. This...

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TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 1844; arnoldruge; communism; communists; dependency; equality; fourierists; france; germany; hegelianism; kaiserwilhelmiv; karlmarx; kingwilhemiv; ludwigfeuerbach; marxism; paris; policestate; prussia; ruge; slavery
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1 posted on 10/08/2017 5:58:27 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

Marx was a parasite living off a family, not paying rent for his room and board and just writing his drivel that eventually cost the lives of millions of people.


2 posted on 10/08/2017 6:01:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: re_tail20

Somebody please go back in time and kill the parents of Karl Marx before they ever meet.


3 posted on 10/08/2017 6:08:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SkyDancer

“Marx was a parasite living off a family, not paying rent for his room and board and just writing his drivel that eventually cost the lives of millions of people.”

Yep. Absolutely correct. But he’s been he darling of all the academic ‘intelligentsia’ who look down their noses at the rest of us ‘little people’ who actually worship God instead of a deadbeat hateful narcissist like Marx.


4 posted on 10/08/2017 6:10:33 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: re_tail20

Seems to me that Marx around 1848 got Greeley to publish his writings weekly in his NYT.
This went on for some 10 years or so, as I recall.

Keeping in mind some of the well-known characters around in those days, one might consider how many and whom of them were influenced by his writings here in the good old USA!

Marx later wrote a nice letter to the then potus, but, alas, it arrived too late!

Ah...the bits of history that sometimes turn up, eh?


5 posted on 10/08/2017 6:12:06 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: gunnyg

Yes I have read that Marx was a fan of Abraham Lincoln.

The American Communists who fought in the Spanish Civil War called themselves the “Abraham Lincoln Brigade”.


6 posted on 10/08/2017 6:17:59 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

SOG!


7 posted on 10/08/2017 6:20:38 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: yarddog

Was Orwell one of them? I got confused reading his Homage to Catalonia. Too many keystone cops-like operations there. Couldn’t see risking my life over that.


8 posted on 10/08/2017 6:21:22 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SkyDancer

Marx watched hux children die of poverty while he smoked cigars in the the other room with his friends. May all Marxists die horrible deaths.


9 posted on 10/08/2017 6:23:21 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: neverevergiveup

What you learn when you’re home schooled. Liberal public schools hold him up as a role model.


10 posted on 10/08/2017 6:24:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: King Moonracer

Him and his buddy Engels although not much is heard about him. They were hoping for a communistic Germany.


11 posted on 10/08/2017 6:25:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I don’t know a lot about Orwell.

I think he started as a Communist then became disenchanted.

I know he spent his last years on a Scottish Island, hunting, fishing, and hiking. His Son said it was a paradise.


12 posted on 10/08/2017 6:25:44 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: re_tail20

Did work in the 1600s - say, like in Plymouth

To wit -
William Bradford, the colony’s first governor, writes that the communal lifestyle was “found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment … [f]or the Young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense.”

After every family was assigned its own parcel of land to farm, “this had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been.”

Bust’n azz for layabouts? Some things never change.


13 posted on 10/08/2017 6:32:17 PM PDT by ASOC (If you're forced to give a man a fish, he eats one day. Deport him and you'll never feed him again.)
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To: SkyDancer

Engels was a homo for Karl. They sodomised each other with cigars, much like Bill Clinton and Monica.


14 posted on 10/08/2017 6:35:33 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: King Moonracer

Hux?


15 posted on 10/08/2017 6:36:53 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: King Moonracer

Seriously?


16 posted on 10/08/2017 6:37:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: gunnyg
NYT = New York Tribune

When Karl Marx Worked For Horace Greeley


17 posted on 10/08/2017 6:37:39 PM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: SkyDancer

No, I just hate Marxists, and I figured I’d malign Bill Clinton too.


18 posted on 10/08/2017 6:38:51 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: King Moonracer

Seriously? You’ve got to be kidding me! Karl Marx was not gay (as far as I know)

Karl Marx was married to Jenny von Westphalen,Marx’s children by his wife were: Jenny Caroline (m. Longuet; 1844–1883); Jenny Laura (m. Lafargue; 1846–1911); Edgar (1847–1855); Henry Edward Guy (”Guido”; 1849–1850); Jenny Eveline Frances (”Franziska”; 1851–1852); Jenny Julia Eleanor (1855–1898); and one more who died before being named (July 1857).


19 posted on 10/08/2017 6:39:37 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: Bratch

NYT = New York Tribune
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Tis So!
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20 posted on 10/08/2017 6:39:40 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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