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Mass Murderers Should Be Deprived of Fame
Townhall.com ^ | October 12, 2017 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 10/12/2017 1:51:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/12/2017 1:51:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The problem is that people want to know who and, more, why these things happen. Now we know about one very warped and evil person and what we can avoid but next time we’ll be surprised again.


2 posted on 10/12/2017 1:59:11 PM PDT by JimSEA
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And how are we supposed to do that? Should we make a “hurricane” and pre-assign names for the next 10 mass killers and only use those name? And what if they don’t die, how do we put them on trial?

I understand what they’re saying but it’s kind of cursing the sun for rising in the east, it’s information it will get out.


3 posted on 10/12/2017 2:02:44 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: Kaslin

Seriously.


4 posted on 10/12/2017 2:02:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Won’t happen since the MSMLSD makes them into hero’s.


5 posted on 10/12/2017 2:03:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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Yes, because some individuals seek fame by killing other people, or imagine themselves doing the same thing, and like the idea.

Mass murderers should be identified by name ONCE. No pictures should be published. Rolling Stone should be put out of business. Reporters should be responsible (impossible) and not interview murderers in prison.


6 posted on 10/12/2017 2:06:41 PM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: discostu; JimSEA; Kaslin

I’ve been saying for years that heinous criminals should not become famous. But I don’t know how to balance that with free speech rights which and transparency which I value more. I have to admit that if the government had refused to ID the LV suspect, I would be one of the many complaining that they are hiding something. (muslim? dreamer? son of some politician? some other protected group?)

I don’t like the idea of making these people instantly famous, but I do think it’s valuable to figure out who they are and why they do what they do. (Liberal upbringing, liberal brainwashing, losers who blame others for all their problems, abused as a child, on psych drugs, went off psych drugs, consuming too much MSM, .... )


7 posted on 10/12/2017 2:09:19 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Kaslin

Agreed. Maybe the media folks feel that they owe the mass murderers more notoriety, because their families had high incomes. And several of them had government-related high incomes.


8 posted on 10/12/2017 2:10:04 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Kaslin
Good idea, but it's easier said than done.


9 posted on 10/12/2017 2:11:27 PM PDT by x
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Instead of referring to them as “the gunman”, stories should just refer to them as “the loser” continuously.


10 posted on 10/12/2017 2:14:31 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Pundits who can’t recognize that there is a difference between fame and infamy and are unable to describe how each can serve a positive purpose should be denied a platform.


11 posted on 10/12/2017 2:15:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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12 posted on 10/12/2017 2:18:41 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Kaslin

When John Lennon was shot, I consciously refused to acknowledge the name of the shooter. I’m not even sure I could name the person today. I don’t want to be able to.

The guy did it for fame. F that noise. [ folks: please do not include his name in a response to this post ]

Lennon was far to the Left of me. It was a source of sorrow for me to realize that. Hey, it was what it was.

Both he and McCartney, and the other members of the Beatles created music that is still very popular and used all over the place 50 years later. Those songs/melodies will be popular 500 years from now. That deserves some credit, some acknowledgement of just how special those times were.

For some malcontent to come along and shoot one of the guys down on a city street, really pisses me off to this day.

For the record, I seldom listen to music. It’s just not my thing. After about ten minutes of music on in the background, it grates me almost as bad as fingernails on a blackboard. It always has.

None the less, you should be able to acknowledge truly great artists for the work they put out, even if you do have massive differences regarding their political ideology. And with Lennon, I did, do, and always will.

I’m not sure how you achieve it, because we should have access to mass killer’s names, though I sure don’t like the idea of them being modern day villains, well known for the disgusting crimes they have committed.


13 posted on 10/12/2017 2:19:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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This is what happened in Australia, and it explains Australia’s reduction in massacres with guns after Port Arthur.

The Port Arthur mass murderer was motivated by fame. He repeatedly asked if he had “broke the record”.

The Australian media almost begged for a mass gun killing so they could pass their population disarmament scheme before Port Arther.

Afterward, they proudly proclaimed it could not happen again, and emphasized how miserable was the life of the mass killer.

It is a little more complicated, but those are the essential facts.

There have been three mass killings in Australia by arson since then, but the media is not yet attempting to ban fire, so they do not get the firestorm of attention that “gun massacres” got before Port Arther, and afterward, to pass one of the most restrictive (and stupid) gun law schemes in Western civilization.


14 posted on 10/12/2017 2:32:10 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Here is a decent source for some of the facts about the media and Port Arthur:

http://www.class.org.au/ideas-kill.htm


15 posted on 10/12/2017 2:33:24 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Boogieman

Best idea so far.

Maybe they could make it “impotent loser with a small penis” to every article. That might be even more effective. (That’s how we ought to refer to terrorists. Every time one of them is taken out, there should be an autopsy that mentions how tiny it is, or something similar.)


16 posted on 10/12/2017 2:36:11 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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I’m not sure how you achieve it, because we should have access to mass killer’s names, though I sure don’t like the idea of them being modern day villains, well known for the disgusting crimes they have committed.


There are numerous private standards that the major media impose on themselves. They refuse to name rape victims. They refuse to mention the race of criminals. They have numerous standards that are not government imposed.

They could do this and promote it.

They will not until pressured to do it by others.

They love mass murderers who use guns. It gains them enormous ratings, thus money.

They believe it advances their political ambitions. They care nothing for the lives lost, which they see as, at worst, collateral damage in their Holy War against any limits on government power.


17 posted on 10/12/2017 2:39:51 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Kaslin

No! We The People are entitled to the truth!


18 posted on 10/12/2017 3:06:45 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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Wow. One of your best posts in a series of excellent posts. You continue to amaze, DoughtyOne.
19 posted on 10/12/2017 3:20:31 PM PDT by bagster (Social Culture Warrior (SCW))
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Thank you bagster.

What a nice response.

20 posted on 10/12/2017 3:30:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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