Posted on 11/27/2017 11:33:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
A short-term spending bill passed by Congress earlier this year runs out on Dec. 8, and keeping the money tap open is one of the main concerns as lawmakers return to town this week.
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) said Congress needs to pass a long-term spending bill, but sometimes you need to do a short-term extension. And Thune discouraged talk about a government shutdown: There shouldnt be any discussion about shutting down the government, he told Fox News Sunday.
We can make this thing work, Thune said. We just need to get people at the table, negotiate it. I think the presidents bringing the leadership in the House and the Senate to his office later this week to do that.
Host Chris Wallace noted that a long-term spending bill will need 60 votes to pass the Senate, which means some Democrats must join Republicans in voting for it. And Wallace said some Democrats are demanding a DACA fix permanent legal residence for hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in return for their support.
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As Reagan once said “Let’s shut it down, and see if anyone notices”
The ‘Ghost of ‘95’ is still in the GOPe’s head.
How do you get the border wall funded? Approve DACA.
How do you get DACA renewed? Fund the border wall.
If DACA is included without funding for the wall, Trump *better* veto it. If he signs such a piece of crap just to avoid ‘shutting down the government’, then he can kiss a 2nd term goodbye.
People in the Dakotas never seem to elect anyone any good!
Most American would welcome a shutdown. And nothing would drain the swamp faster.
Ghost is a good word for their concern. What did it cost them? If there was any effect or causality it helped them in the next election as I recall.
Would Noem be better? Better looking.
Tom Daschle was the worst.
But, for years and years and years, "sometimes" has become "everytime".
Beginning to see Thune as a pretty boy that would fold like a cheap lawn chair if someone got in his face. He seems to be nothing more than Mitch’s little bitch.
Refugee from the DC bath house. The left is always the same.
Brother Thune with a message from the Ministry of Plenty.
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponents Argument
Regarding post-17th Amendment ratification Sen. Thunes statement, please consider the following.
To the contrary, with the exception of Congress fulfilling its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited power duties, the Founding States had reasonably intended for a government shutdown to be the feds normal operating mode where peacetime domestic policy is concerned imo.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." United States v. Butler, 1936.
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." me
In other words, the founders expected a states legal voters to work with their state lawmakers, not the feds, to establish the state social spending programs that majority voters want. This is why patriots need to support Pres. Trump in working with the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes.
As constitutional lawmaker Rep. John Bingham had clarified in the congressional record
"... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added]." Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)
Patriots must now be making sure that there are plenty of state sovereignty-respecting, Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, and send candidate patriot lawmakers to D.C. on election day.
Thing is, a “shutdown” leaves the essential services running.
What better way to identify what’s not essential? and kill ‘em right there?
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