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Forget Collusion. Can Mueller Prove Russia Committed Cyberespionage? If not, what’s the point?
National Review ^ | December 11, 2017 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 12/11/2017 10:29:57 AM PST by billorites

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1 posted on 12/11/2017 10:29:57 AM PST by billorites
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Even if so, what are they going to do? Countries spy on other countries all the time. When did it become something new?


2 posted on 12/11/2017 10:31:49 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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It wasn’t a hack, it was a leak.
His name was Seth Rich and he was plugged.

Investigate THAT!


3 posted on 12/11/2017 10:32:15 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Given what we now know about the extreme anti Trump hatred in government agencies, the seditious ‘ resistance’ by high level Obama and Clinton partisan holdovers and the NSA cyber warfare toolkit that can alter meta data to fake foreign cyber attacks and hide false flag operations, there is no way our intelligence staffs can be trusted
4 posted on 12/11/2017 10:37:21 AM PST by rdcbn
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Becerra Tried To Block Server Admin Over Red Flags, But Logins Continued, With Muted Reaction

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/11/becerra-tried-to-block-server-admin-over-red-flags-but-logins-continued-with-muted-reaction/


5 posted on 12/11/2017 10:38:03 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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Having given the Russians the US uranium for
Clinton Foundation fees HIMSELF, and having
covered up for the Clinton Foundation, who
better than Mueller can understand the road
to treason, and why his kind sell out the USA.


6 posted on 12/11/2017 10:38:48 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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What’s the point?

The point is non-stop political theater designed by America’s oligarchs and deep-state commissars designed to undo unfortunate election results.


7 posted on 12/11/2017 10:38:52 AM PST by PGR88
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There was no hacking so, how can there be collusion?

The Mueller investigation has exposed itself as a partisan attack on the president of the USA!

How can this 'investigative' farce continue?

8 posted on 12/11/2017 10:42:11 AM PST by blam
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Without proving that Russia committed the DNC willeaked docments hack, Mueller has no case.

Since wikileaks did not get the documents from ruseia, mulehead has no case. And the press will tell us if there was any democrat corruption discussed in those emals. Honest


9 posted on 12/11/2017 10:43:38 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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Get Lewandowski and Brock’s new book, “Let Trump Be Trump”. Go to the part that talks about Paul Manafort. Read the part where it appears Manafort stole $700K from Mr. Trump. You don’t steal from Mr. Trump.

With whom did Meuller meet the day before he was appointed?
Answer: President Trump

Who was the target of the first substantive indictment?
Answer: Paul Manafort

Reminder: Do not steal from Mr. Trump.


10 posted on 12/11/2017 10:44:23 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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This, of course, does not mean it was wrong for the intelligence agencies to accept a private contractor’s analysis. CrowdStrike has a good reputation. But this state of play would not fly in a criminal prosecution — a point that is so obvious that no experienced prosecutors or investigators would be confident that they could make the case without seizing the physical evidence and conducting the government’s own investigation. And you’ll notice that Mueller has brought no such case.

There's a simple reason why the FBI accepted the CrowdStrike finding and never insisted on examining the DNC server. The refusal of the DNC to turn over their computer hardware was prima facie evidence that there was no crime. It was the equivalent of someone reporting a burglary but never allowing the police into the house to investigate the alleged crime scene. The lack of cooperation on the part of the alleged victim is all the police need to determine that no crime was committed.

The most important angle to that story is how the FBI got involved in the first place. Did they get involved based on media reports, or did someone at the DNC actually report the matter to the FBI? If it was the latter, then this would clearly be just one more case where a DNC operative may have lied to the FBI.

11 posted on 12/11/2017 10:45:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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Mueller doesn’t have to prove anything, just inject enough noise, suspicion, discord, etc. into the system to eventually force resignation, impeachment or some other form/degree of executive branch hindrance or denigration. Sessions will hold his coattails in absentia while this is going on, if not polish his boots.


12 posted on 12/11/2017 10:48:59 AM PST by pt17
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Mueller does not have a case regarding hacking because there was no hacking-the emails were downloaded by someone and given to Wikileaks. That someone is likely Seth Rich.


13 posted on 12/11/2017 10:49:41 AM PST by Doche2X2
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“When did it become something new?”

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When they were worried they might not be able to cover for Clinton corruption and she could get prosecuted.


14 posted on 12/11/2017 10:50:16 AM PST by z3n
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Mueller’s Investigation is nothing more than a “big payoff” to the democrat Party. They are raking in $ Millions with no oversight. Just like Obama did with $ Billions. Lots of people being paid. No paperwork trail for work done. Just no show employees and all Democraps. Why would they stop? Free Money and all!


15 posted on 12/11/2017 10:51:32 AM PST by DrDude (Why allow Hillary to continue to breath!)
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Mueller's mission is to destroy Trump. The Russian angle is just the way it was setup by the previous administration. Facts and proof in court are secondary, if Trump is smeared.

Fortunately, the Mueller team is as incompetent as they are evil.

16 posted on 12/11/2017 10:51:32 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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Who is actually signing Mueller’s checks? Does he have to fill out a year end performance review?


17 posted on 12/11/2017 10:56:34 AM PST by Phillyred
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Yeah, all we have to do is trust totally politicized people in US intel agencies. They would never lie to us! </S>


18 posted on 12/11/2017 11:01:51 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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Who is actually signing Mueller’s checks? Does he have to fill out a year end performance review?

I would think DOJ is paying the bills and he does have to make reports to Rosenstein. Not sure how frequent those reports are, but it is at least once a year. If SC deviates from the SC charter he is suppose to go to Rosenstein for approval. I would think SC would have had to go to Rosenstein for the Manafort/Gates part of the investigation for approval.

19 posted on 12/11/2017 11:08:15 AM PST by EVO X
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Well, it was never really new. Democrats rely on an uninformed public so that they can make up whatever story they want and their cult will believe it. Real history isn’t taught anymore, instead it’s politically correct garbage about how America stole land, and how white colonialism has terrorized indigenous populations. When Obama and Hillary say that Muslims played an important role in American history, Democrats actually believe it. They’ve never been taught real history.


20 posted on 12/11/2017 11:10:20 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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