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Judge Rules In Favor Of California Baker Who Refused To Bake Wedding Cake For Same-Sex Couple
https://www.10news.com ^ | Dec 14, 2017 | Johana Restrepo

Posted on 12/18/2017 3:41:48 AM PST by Enterprise

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To: grania

with the principle. But when I consider the motives of the gay community, it’s obvious that the goal is not the cake. The goal is to put company owners who support traditional values out of business.””
Precisely, their goal is to attack Christianity period. Homosexuals, more than Muslims, have done incalculable damage to Christianity.


41 posted on 12/18/2017 6:04:24 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: grania

The baker should tell the gays requesting a cake “I’m busy” & leave it at that.

The gays (or anyone else for that matter) wouldn’t have any way of knowing the real reason.

Lawsuit avoided & business still running.


42 posted on 12/18/2017 6:05:24 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: ThunderSleeps
I read online (but have not yet confirmed) that in the CO case now before the USSC the gays drove over 120 miles to their selected target ... er ... baker - eschewing 67 other bakeries that were closer.

Interstate harassment.

43 posted on 12/18/2017 6:16:00 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: grania

It not only misses the point. It requires them to violate their own firmly held religious beliefs. Christians should not be required to endorse homosexual acts, nor to tell a lie to get out of it.


44 posted on 12/18/2017 6:16:29 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ)
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To: Enterprise

It’s strange that state-level judges, even in California, are often more conservative than the federal districts over the same area. Even the Cali Supreme Court upheld Prop 8 which defined real marriage.


45 posted on 12/18/2017 6:32:51 AM PST by fwdude (Why is it that the only positive things to come out of LGBT organizations are their AIDS tests?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Was this a Federal or a state judge?

County Judge ruling against the state's TRO request.

46 posted on 12/18/2017 6:37:43 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: fwdude
It’s strange that state-level judges, even in California, are often more conservative than the federal districts over the same area.

The judge in question refused to issue the TRO because he said he didn't have enough information. He's send a list of questions to the baker for answers, and will take the matter up again in February.

47 posted on 12/18/2017 6:40:50 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Enterprise

The lezbos did this on purpose. They chose a bakery that they knew would refuse, for the express purpose of suing them. They are out to force Christians to choose between their faith and their wallet.
They could have easily found a baker willing to bake a cake for them.
And they deliberately chose not to go to a muzzy baker.


48 posted on 12/18/2017 6:42:19 AM PST by I want the USA back (*slam is not a religion. It is a political movement to establish a religion.)
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To: Enterprise

What if her religious beliefs were not “sincerely held”? Does she have to show a church attendance record or regular tithing? What if she just didn’t want to bake a cake for “icky, creepy homos”?

And, as I’ve asked before, what if the issue is that one of the betrothed is underaged? If your argument is “anti-discrimination”, doesn’t a sincerely held belief against child abuse also violate these anti-discrimination laws?


49 posted on 12/18/2017 6:42:42 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Let Trump Be Trump. Would you rather have Hillary?)
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To: MayflowerMadam
I’m surprised it took your post, #17, to point out the Big Deal here, i.e., that this was a judge in CALIFORNIA.

It's not unusual for lower courts to suspend rulings on issues before the Supreme Court. They are essentially waiting for USSC to rule then they will respond to their claimants accordingly.

50 posted on 12/18/2017 6:47:57 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Let Trump Be Trump. Would you rather have Hillary?)
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To: Vigilanteman
Remember that the GAYstapo doesn't stumble across these businesses accidentally.






51 posted on 12/18/2017 7:09:13 AM PST by Cheerio (#44, The unknown President)
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To: xzins
The judge's reasoning should be straightforward:

Involuntary servitude is prohibited by the United States Constitution no matter how noble the complainant/bully may think their "cause" to be.

52 posted on 12/18/2017 7:13:25 AM PST by glennaro
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Not accidental, nor are they likely asking for an ordinary wedding cake. THink about it, if someone came in and asked for your basic wedding cake, why would they object. I’m guessing they want something odd written on it, images of same sex couples, or something lewd that triggers the reaction.


53 posted on 12/18/2017 7:20:36 AM PST by rey
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To: Vigilanteman

Yes, it has been proven that homosexuals make for cruel masters when given a modicum of authority.


54 posted on 12/18/2017 7:21:40 AM PST by Amish with an attitude
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To: bunkerhill7

Now that’s gay. Lol


55 posted on 12/18/2017 7:25:53 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: xzins

“Miller to create wedding cakes for LGBT persons, even though doing so would violate her sincerely held religious beliefs.”


56 posted on 12/18/2017 7:31:24 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: grania
These bakers and others who are targeted by the gay community should take the job but tell them that profits from the transaction will be given to a (choose one) Christian group that opposes gay marriage.

Or, "we'd love to make your cake for your Gay wedding. The cost for this particular cake is, $400,000.00. Full payment must be received prior to baking of the cake."

57 posted on 12/18/2017 7:34:16 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: logi_cal869

Ruling out copycat tactics to retain the high moral ground is exactly what doomed the GOPe. I’d rethink that if I were you.

I got in a fight in middle school where the other guy broke a pop bottle and started waiving it at me. I tossed a 16oz hot chocolate in his eyes. Never felt bad about it. Still don’t.


58 posted on 12/18/2017 7:48:23 AM PST by anton
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To: vpintheak
The Mrs and I have had a few conversations about this. We both personally feel that the people should just bake them a cake.

I don't think that is quite the issue here. The issue is whether a baker should be forced to decorate a cake in a way that she finds offensive.

I'm certain that if the gay "couple" went into the bakery to get a custom birthday cake, decorated with balloons and an innocuous phrase such as "Happy Birthday, Chris!" there would have been no issue, they would have gotten the cake. But they purposely looked for a Christian and requested the Christian decorate the cake with a pro-gay theme. That *is* an issue.

59 posted on 12/18/2017 7:49:15 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Remember that the GAYstapo doesn’t stumble across these businesses accidentally. They seek them out for the purpose of wrecking them. “

Would be interesting to ask what bakery in the area actually made the cake. Then, take a real close look to see if they are friends of those going after the Christian bakery.

If this was a plot to wipe out competition, I would sue them all.

I observed first hand where a disabled woman tied in with an attorney (in Texas) and all she did was travel around finding businesses in other states to sue for violation. The system is the punishment.


60 posted on 12/18/2017 7:55:59 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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