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1 posted on 01/14/2018 9:15:09 AM PST by Olog-hai
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***WARNING***

NBC = Nothing But Counterfeit

Don’t believe these Lying Leftist Media outlets that proved themselves during the 2016 campaign to be operatives of the DNC and intentional liars. They are presumed to be lying and we should presume what they publish is a lie. The presumption can only be rebutted with the outlet providing clear and convincing evidence they are not lying.

Why don’t we follow Trump’s lead here on FR? Let’s limit posting headlines from these wretched Lying Leftist outlets. If this story is true and has some redeeming value, at least get the story from a reasonably reliable source, not from a known Lying Leftist operative posing as a “news” organization.

2 posted on 01/14/2018 9:17:19 AM PST by Jim W N
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I hate taxes.


3 posted on 01/14/2018 9:17:59 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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REMEMBER:

The Supreme Court has NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY to make national law!


4 posted on 01/14/2018 9:18:03 AM PST by Jim W N
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absolutely NO. Totally unconstitutional. No question about it.


6 posted on 01/14/2018 9:20:13 AM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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Taxing good things out of existence is a majot pre-occupation of the Democrats. They’ll eventually kill free email and tax every click on Youtube, which will destroy it. Google’s left leanings will be its undoing.


7 posted on 01/14/2018 9:20:32 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Amazon already collects sales taxes on purchases. What is this news report about?


11 posted on 01/14/2018 9:27:16 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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Current Supreme Court precedent holds that a retailer must have a physical presence in a state before sales tax can be charged on its interstate sales into that state. This seems both sound law and economically reasonable in that such sales do not provoke a need for government services that a retailer’s physical presence evokes. My guess is that the Court will again follow this rule and emphasize that Congress can use its commerce power to change it if they wish. In other words, the people’s elected representatives should make the final and binding decision on the issue.


14 posted on 01/14/2018 9:30:46 AM PST by Rockingham
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I remember when we were a Constitutional Republic and we decide things through our representatives.


18 posted on 01/14/2018 9:41:12 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Lawyers for the states said they’re losing nearly $34 billion a year because of the physical presence rule, though estimates from the federal Government Accountability Office said the figure is much smaller.


A pet peeve of mine, is people saying that some entity of government, is “losing” money, due to an inability to tax some sort of activity.

This implies that somehow this money belongs to the government, and the government has an unalienable absolute right to tax absolutely everything.

Anyone agree? Anyone disagree, and think that government should calculate that they “lose x amount”, if something isn’t taxed, and then figure out a way to impose a new tax?


20 posted on 01/14/2018 9:43:43 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Next thing after this, they want these online businesses to apply their state laws in their business if they want to sell stuff to people living in their state.


21 posted on 01/14/2018 9:43:47 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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0bamacare, making war without a declaration by Congress, and a ton of other extra-constitutional nonsense has been allowed by the Supremes.

Precedent has been set.

Saying this is unconstitutional won’t cut any ice, unfortunately.

Time to water the tree of liberty.


22 posted on 01/14/2018 9:44:18 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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Every one of the 58 counties in Calif has their own sales tax. Some cities also charge sales taxes.

The accounting on such transactions are a nightmare.

This isn’t as easy as a NON-ACCOUNTING person thinks it is.

Even for a company in Calif that ships something to another county & tries to collect the correct sales tax & THEM REMIT that tax to the correct county isn’t easy. Been there. Done that.

How many TOTAL counties are there in the USA? 3144 ?????

Supremes-—Please rethink this. Even if you order something online, the seller would be required to demand that the buyer announce what their local sales tax rate is & I can tell you that 95% of consumers DO NOT know the answer to that question. I shop in 3 different counties—and all the rates are different. I know what 2 counties charge, but I don’t shop often enough to remember the third rate.

Audits & challenges to these reports will be very costly to sellers.


23 posted on 01/14/2018 9:49:43 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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Oh, puh-leeeeeeeze. The old rule was a good one.


31 posted on 01/14/2018 10:01:46 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year! Screeeeewwwww 2017!)
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This is not about creating a tax where no tax exists. This is about ending tax evasion by scofflaws who fail to pay the taxes they are required to pay.

The scofflaws get away with it because it is supposedly too difficult and costly for state governments to go after all of the individual scofflaws.

Amazon is partly the success it is because scofflaws got a discount by failing to pay taxes that were owed to their state/local governments.

One of the reasons we have all of the government we have is that rather than working together to fight big government, individuals find ways to skirt the laws, taxes and regulations.

Another way that libertarianism as practiced by individuals leads to bigger government for the community as a whole.

34 posted on 01/14/2018 10:02:51 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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Internet sale tax collection is impossible.

Amazon and Walmart and Office Depot and such can easily collect state taxes on sales to sites with a specific state.

Ebay and other such sites where there are an infinite number of small vendors can not. I frequently purchase items on ebay shipped from Hong Kong and other such locations. It is not possible to collect taxes from foreign sites. This is especially true of the Etrogs vaunted tariffs


41 posted on 01/14/2018 10:15:17 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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Good. I live in a warehouse State. I’m tired of subsidizing those who don’t.


45 posted on 01/14/2018 10:27:28 AM PST by Wolfie
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That will basically cause small websites to shut down because they will not have the resources to determine taxes for the thousands of tax districts in the nation.


53 posted on 01/14/2018 10:44:25 AM PST by TomGuy
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Eventually physical stores will hardly exist. Most of what we buy will involve online sales. In fact that is already the case for me except for food and sundries.

Thus they will have to allow taxation of the internet. It is just a matter of when.


54 posted on 01/14/2018 10:46:48 AM PST by plain talk
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There seems to be quite a bit of “they must pay their fair share” (with regards to retailers and consumers) in this thread.


55 posted on 01/14/2018 10:53:17 AM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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Money, money, money, money.


68 posted on 01/14/2018 11:48:23 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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