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BORDER WALL MODELS THWART US COMMANDOS IN TESTS
AP ^ | 1/19/18 | Elliot Spagat

Posted on 01/19/2018 7:12:52 AM PST by markomalley

Recent assaults by tactical teams on prototypes of President Donald Trump's proposed wall with Mexico indicate their imposing heights should stop border crossers, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the rigorous assessment told The Associated Press.

Military special forces based in Florida and U.S. Customs and Border Protection special units spent three weeks trying to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was not authorized for public release.

A Customs and Border Protection report on the tests identifies strengths and flaws of each design but does not pick an overall winner or rank them, though it does point to see-through steel barriers topped by concrete as the best overall design, the official said.

The report recommends combining elements of each, depending on the terrain. The official likened it to a Lego design, pulling pieces from different prototypes.

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: buildthefence; daca; dreamact; dreamers
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To: fso301

That’s where see-thru comes into play...


21 posted on 01/19/2018 7:47:18 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley

No se puede?


22 posted on 01/19/2018 7:54:43 AM PST by RealVirginia
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To: Hot Tabasco

The best surveillance will be from the air in most cases....drones and cameras.


23 posted on 01/19/2018 8:13:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley
Although the evaluation report recommends mixing features of the various designs to suit different locations, the overall best single design winner was Caddell Construction Co. of Montgomery, Alabama:

Concrete wall, on top of see-through steel bollards


24 posted on 01/19/2018 8:13:20 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: fso301
Ah....pulley system....Calls for razor blade edge. Metal pulley system you say...electric wire could work.

There has to be favorite crossings and they will change....so when they move, we move.

See through seems the best. Reward land owners for reporting them. Of course half are likely to be taking bribes already....that's the Mexican way.

25 posted on 01/19/2018 8:16:06 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Agreed


26 posted on 01/19/2018 8:19:09 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: KavMan
Cameras are capable of so much more....100 feet is not necessary. Camera...360 degrees all ways.

Hell, baby drones can run all day along sections.

27 posted on 01/19/2018 8:21:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Jeff Chandler

Hi Jeff, I hope you are well. I was just re-reading the story of Larry Walters last week as I used him for an example of thinking outside the box. Thanks for the graphic, my Friend.

Gwjack


28 posted on 01/19/2018 8:22:38 AM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: fso301

The wall is a force multiplier it doesn’t replace the need for a manned border. It enhances border security it isn’t a stand alone solution.


29 posted on 01/19/2018 8:28:08 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: markomalley

each section of the wall should have a couple of rolls of concertina wire on top, just to make sure.


30 posted on 01/19/2018 8:29:12 AM PST by euram
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To: fso301

“How will such wall prevent a weighted line connected to a rope ladder from being tossed/shot from one side over to an accomplice on the other side?”

The main obstacle is just the sheer height of the wall, like a three story building. Testers had a hard time getting a grappling hook up to that height by hand, though it could be done. Another thing that testers experienced, was that somewhere between 16 and 20 feet, it started to get scary high for climbers. Thirty foot drops are more often fatal than not (those not killed, are badly injured, no walking it off). Non-commando men, women and children will be strongly deterred by the sheer height. It approaches a task for specialists, like rock climbers.

The other main deterrent to the rope ladder (or a regular ladder, with a rope to descend), is the kind of double barrier that is envisioned in urban areas - a no-man’s land between barriers, where there is no accomplice available on the other side, but rather a gauntlet of lights, cameras, sensors and Border Patrol.


31 posted on 01/19/2018 8:43:25 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: tennmountainman

It’s a win-win ...... great test for the wall prototypes, great experience for the Special Forces who probably learned a lot of future value from their efforts.


32 posted on 01/19/2018 8:50:46 AM PST by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)
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To: C210N

Is that the Coldiz glider?


33 posted on 01/19/2018 8:50:57 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: central_va

“The wall is a force multiplier it doesn’t replace the need for a manned border. It enhances border security it isn’t a stand alone solution.”

Exactly.


34 posted on 01/19/2018 8:54:21 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Death of the MSM - "Because it is my show and I don't want to do that." Jake Tapper)
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To: central_va
The wall is a force multiplier it doesn’t replace the need for a manned border. It enhances border security it isn’t a stand alone solution.

That's what the naysayers (and generally ignorant) forget.

35 posted on 01/19/2018 8:55:38 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Arguing with the left is like trying to reason with a crazy bum hearing voices)
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To: fso301

How many folks, let alone malnourished illegals, have the upper body/core body strength to climb a rope ladder 30 feet and then climb down the other side.

And these test attempts didn’t even factor in any motion detection systems that will also be deployed.


36 posted on 01/19/2018 9:00:05 AM PST by shotgun
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To: ptsal

As few as 10 women shot dead will end the women border security problem

ditto except 3 kids


37 posted on 01/19/2018 9:01:22 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: BeauBo

“Concrete wall, on top of see-through steel bollards.”

That’s a surprising design. I assume the steel bollards are solid rather than just hollow poles?


38 posted on 01/19/2018 9:23:41 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

“I assume the steel bollards are solid rather than just hollow poles?”

They are definitely a heavy gauge of steel, but not solid steel. They may or may not be filled with concrete.

Bollards have been proven in the field over many years. Other types of metal barriers have been breached with cutting tools, torches or brute force - but not the bollards.


39 posted on 01/19/2018 9:31:07 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: Jeff Chandler

The fact they might have done this is due to the “Trump Effect” - don’t build something that won’t be effective....


40 posted on 01/19/2018 9:31:51 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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