Posted on 02/03/2018 6:41:41 AM PST by Wolfie
But what is still missing from the answers from FReepers is what specifically is the next step in this process?
So we get more memos or releases of information. So what?
If there is not a process to identify, investigate, obtain evidence, charge, try and convict these people, nothing will happen, like nothing always happens.
So my serious question is still, what happens next to achieve the goal of fixing this broke DOJ and FBI?
Who are the adults in charge who will follow-though on this information from the memo and future releases? How will the process pan out?
Anybody out there have a serious answer to this question?
The more that I read, the more I’m convinced that the 4 FISA warrants could not have been accomplished without the collusion of the FISA judge(s). Think about that for a minute.
I note a parallel to his story from the ‘13 drug bust and today: NO prosecution (noted) of the LAW-BREAKERS.
I’m afraid we’ll see more “He quit\was fired” and that’ll be the end of the that.
You see some of that here.
At the very least he (they) was not the least bit curious about the evidence, such as "media reports", presented.
With Title 1 warrants against him, Carter Page would have to have had deadly serious proof against him that he was a “foreign spy”. No way the FISA judge(s) would have let that slip by. There was no serious proof. What, that the FBI told Page in 2013 that the Russians were trying to recruit him? Why would they have told Page had he been a no-kidding suspect? They would have let that one play out. No, there was no proof against Page. A trip to Moscow is hardly a crime. Unless your name is Ted Kennedy.....
You speak of only four.
How many other warrants did the judge grant against other Republican Presidential candidates?
Where are the warrants for the Bush, Cruz, Rubio and Paul campaigns? The warrants last for 90 days so they are in the dark history of early 2016 or late 2015.
without the collusion of the FISA judges...
I agree.
You go before a judge with a yarn about prostitutes urinating on a bed and expect them to authorize surveillance of a presidential candidate?
First attempt seems to have been laughed out of court.
It’s the subsequent efforts that were given credence before the court.
Was the same info presented to the court due to the rotating nature of the judges on the FISA court?
Could the FBI/DOJ been aware of a more sympathetic justice on the court?
I don’t trust ANYTHING emanating from an Obama appointed judge...
That will give you a good understanding of all the current investigations.
This will roll out over several months. Congress takes it sweet, deliberate time, as does the IG. It is like peeling an onion, only this one has layers of rot and stink in it. It is a messy job.
This is a war that will play out through the midterms. Everything now is positioning for November. It is always that way after Jan 1 of election years.
Trump,unfortunately screwed the pooch with his appointments at DoJ. Ultimately these are the folks that have to bring indictments. The current crop of appointees will never do that and until Mueller is defused Trump is stymied on replacing and correcting his mistakes.
Things could have rolled differently, but too late. The dems last hope is that Mueller will muddy the wants and keep things going for them.
They have successfully dumbed down the American electorate so well that at least half of the electorate can’t understand why what the FBI and DOJ did was so insidious. That’s why no pitchforks, they have lost the understanding and desire for freedom and liberty.
The Democrats are wound up because the Memo’s origin — the House Intelligence Chair — makes it newsworthy and forces the Media to write about it. This exposes the rest of America to information that the Media had been refusing to report up until now. Think of the Memo as a wedge being driven between the Siamese Twins that are the DNC and the MSM.
I have never been able to give Denninger’s outrage during the Obama years and after since he voted for Obama in 2008 and publicly supported him. Anyone halfway informed and smart knew then as we know now that Obama was a truly committed communist with muslim leanings and would attempt to destroy this country. So his insights are forever tainted for me.
Yes, you really have to hand it to those crack FISA judges.
What’s that, you say FBI? You have a yahoo news article?
Hell, that’s good enough for me, where’s my rubber stamp?
I was trying to remember who the chick was that was telling the reporter on live TV how they were trying to spread all the intel they were gathering, and hoping that it would be preserved and used against Trump. When did she say that?
. . . with the caveat that we have to, unfortunately, make allowances for the fact that Obama did in fact peacefully abdicate when Trump was inaugurated.Just as Jimmy Carter was in the wrong to hang Irans Shah out to dry. Even if he didnt like him, failing to at least give him sanctuary set the precedent that the US was untrustworthy.
No, no, no, no, no.
Reply from the Intelligence Committee: "Maybe."
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This assumption made on the part of Nunes assumes something not in evidence. How many FISA requests have ever been denied?
I'd say you see a lot of it. I've seen countless posts blaming this all on Obama's corruption of the FBI and similar crap. The facts are that the FBI (and all the other three-letter agencies IMO) had long been weaponised the people, and in support of what is now called "deep state", but I'd refer to as 'transnationals' that go way back to the 20s. This corruption didn't happen in 8 years. Or 10 years, or even 20. It's been around for most if not all of the last century. The government is effectively a criminal organization that is by, of, and for itself alone. Trying to lay all the blame on some two-bit huckster of uncertain parentage is just wishful thinking.
Excellent. Too funny.
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