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The Truth About The Nunes Memo
Market-Ticker ^ | Feb. 2, 2018 | Karl Denniger

Posted on 02/03/2018 6:41:41 AM PST by Wolfie

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To: RonnG
I understand there will be more information released in bits and pieces by the Nunes committee.

But what is still missing from the answers from FReepers is what specifically is the next step in this process?

So we get more memos or releases of information. So what?

If there is not a process to identify, investigate, obtain evidence, charge, try and convict these people, nothing will happen, like nothing always happens.

So my serious question is still, what happens next to achieve the goal of fixing this broke DOJ and FBI?

Who are the adults in charge who will follow-though on this information from the memo and future releases? How will the process pan out?

Anybody out there have a serious answer to this question?

21 posted on 02/03/2018 7:45:00 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: Wolfie

The more that I read, the more I’m convinced that the 4 FISA warrants could not have been accomplished without the collusion of the FISA judge(s). Think about that for a minute.


22 posted on 02/03/2018 7:58:06 AM PST by Nabber
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To: Wolfie; All

I note a parallel to his story from the ‘13 drug bust and today: NO prosecution (noted) of the LAW-BREAKERS.

I’m afraid we’ll see more “He quit\was fired” and that’ll be the end of the that.


23 posted on 02/03/2018 7:59:35 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Wolfie
If you are only upset about this because you like Trump then you're no better than they are, in that you're perfectly ok with so-called "law enforcement" committing felonies so long as "the right people" are arrested, charged and prosecuted.

You see some of that here.

24 posted on 02/03/2018 8:03:37 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Nabber
The more that I read, the more I’m convinced that the 4 FISA warrants could not have been accomplished without the collusion of the FISA judge(s).

At the very least he (they) was not the least bit curious about the evidence, such as "media reports", presented.

25 posted on 02/03/2018 8:07:26 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

With Title 1 warrants against him, Carter Page would have to have had deadly serious proof against him that he was a “foreign spy”. No way the FISA judge(s) would have let that slip by. There was no serious proof. What, that the FBI told Page in 2013 that the Russians were trying to recruit him? Why would they have told Page had he been a no-kidding suspect? They would have let that one play out. No, there was no proof against Page. A trip to Moscow is hardly a crime. Unless your name is Ted Kennedy.....


26 posted on 02/03/2018 8:17:50 AM PST by Nabber
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To: Nabber

You speak of only four.

How many other warrants did the judge grant against other Republican Presidential candidates?

Where are the warrants for the Bush, Cruz, Rubio and Paul campaigns? The warrants last for 90 days so they are in the dark history of early 2016 or late 2015.


27 posted on 02/03/2018 8:19:38 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Nabber

without the collusion of the FISA judges...

I agree.

You go before a judge with a yarn about prostitutes urinating on a bed and expect them to authorize surveillance of a presidential candidate?

First attempt seems to have been laughed out of court.

It’s the subsequent efforts that were given credence before the court.

Was the same info presented to the court due to the rotating nature of the judges on the FISA court?

Could the FBI/DOJ been aware of a more sympathetic justice on the court?

I don’t trust ANYTHING emanating from an Obama appointed judge...


28 posted on 02/03/2018 8:29:38 AM PST by Paisan
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To: HotHunt
First of all go back and read all the recent posts on the conservative treehouse. Theconservativetreehouse.com

That will give you a good understanding of all the current investigations.

This will roll out over several months. Congress takes it sweet, deliberate time, as does the IG. It is like peeling an onion, only this one has layers of rot and stink in it. It is a messy job.

This is a war that will play out through the midterms. Everything now is positioning for November. It is always that way after Jan 1 of election years.

Trump,unfortunately screwed the pooch with his appointments at DoJ. Ultimately these are the folks that have to bring indictments. The current crop of appointees will never do that and until Mueller is defused Trump is stymied on replacing and correcting his mistakes.

Things could have rolled differently, but too late. The dems last hope is that Mueller will muddy the wants and keep things going for them.

29 posted on 02/03/2018 9:17:46 AM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: American in Israel

They have successfully dumbed down the American electorate so well that at least half of the electorate can’t understand why what the FBI and DOJ did was so insidious. That’s why no pitchforks, they have lost the understanding and desire for freedom and liberty.


30 posted on 02/03/2018 9:25:39 AM PST by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: Spok

The Democrats are wound up because the Memo’s origin — the House Intelligence Chair — makes it newsworthy and forces the Media to write about it. This exposes the rest of America to information that the Media had been refusing to report up until now. Think of the Memo as a wedge being driven between the Siamese Twins that are the DNC and the MSM.


31 posted on 02/03/2018 9:50:01 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Cen-Tejas

I have never been able to give Denninger’s outrage during the Obama years and after since he voted for Obama in 2008 and publicly supported him. Anyone halfway informed and smart knew then as we know now that Obama was a truly committed communist with muslim leanings and would attempt to destroy this country. So his insights are forever tainted for me.


32 posted on 02/03/2018 9:50:55 AM PST by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: Nabber

Yes, you really have to hand it to those crack FISA judges.

What’s that, you say FBI? You have a yahoo news article?
Hell, that’s good enough for me, where’s my rubber stamp?


33 posted on 02/03/2018 10:08:57 AM PST by Newtoidaho (Proud member of Trump's army of online trolls)
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To: all the best
Nice review. Someone should create a timeline for all of this stuff. Specific dates for specific events and dates of their public revelation.

I was trying to remember who the chick was that was telling the reporter on live TV how they were trying to spread all the “intel” they were gathering, and hoping that it would be preserved and used against Trump. When did she say that?

34 posted on 02/03/2018 10:44:08 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: RonnG
“What did Obama know?” and “When did he know it?”
. . . with the caveat that we have to, unfortunately, make allowances for the fact that Obama did in fact peacefully abdicate when Trump was inaugurated.

Just as Jimmy Carter was in the wrong to hang Iran’s Shah out to dry. Even if he didn’t like him, failing to at least give him sanctuary set the precedent that the US was untrustworthy.


35 posted on 02/03/2018 10:48:39 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: RonnG
I have read reports that this memo is only 10% of what is going to be revealed in the coming weeks ahead.
Comey smirked “is that it?”
Reply from the Intelligence Committee “ You ain’t seen nothin’ yet”

No, no, no, no, no.

Reply from the Intelligence Committee: "Maybe."

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

36 posted on 02/03/2018 10:51:10 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Wolfie

37 posted on 02/03/2018 10:52:41 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: Wolfie
The memo makes clear that absent the Dossier there would have been no warrant as the court would have refused to grant it for lack of evidence, no spying on the Trump campaign and no grounds for the current Mueller investigation.

This assumption made on the part of Nunes assumes something not in evidence. How many FISA requests have ever been denied?

38 posted on 02/03/2018 11:05:12 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: MileHi
If you are only upset about this because you like Trump then you're no better than they are, in that you're perfectly ok with so-called "law enforcement" committing felonies so long as "the right people" are arrested, charged and prosecuted.

You see some of that here.

I'd say you see a lot of it. I've seen countless posts blaming this all on Obama's corruption of the FBI and similar crap. The facts are that the FBI (and all the other three-letter agencies IMO) had long been weaponised the people, and in support of what is now called "deep state", but I'd refer to as 'transnationals' that go way back to the 20s. This corruption didn't happen in 8 years. Or 10 years, or even 20. It's been around for most if not all of the last century. The government is effectively a criminal organization that is by, of, and for itself alone. Trying to lay all the blame on some two-bit huckster of uncertain parentage is just wishful thinking.

39 posted on 02/03/2018 11:13:20 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: newfreep

Excellent. Too funny.


40 posted on 02/03/2018 11:14:51 AM PST by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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