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Why Is the GOP Terrified of Tariffs?
Townhall.com ^ | March 6, 2018 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 03/06/2018 7:48:47 AM PST by Kaslin

From Lincoln to William McKinley to Theodore Roosevelt, and from Warren Harding through Calvin Coolidge, the Republican Party erected the most awesome manufacturing machine the world had ever seen.

And, as the party of high tariffs through those seven decades, the GOP was rewarded by becoming America's Party.

Thirteen Republican presidents served from 1860 to 1930, and only two Democrats. And Grover Cleveland and Woodrow Wilson were elected only because the Republicans had split.

Why, then, this terror of tariffs that grips the GOP?

Consider. On hearing that President Trump might impose tariffs on aluminum and steel, Sen. Lindsey Graham was beside himself: "Please reconsider," he implored the president, "you're making a huge mistake."

Twenty-four hours earlier, Graham had confidently assured us that war with a nuclear-armed North Korea is "worth it."

"All the damage that would come from a war would be worth it in terms of long-term stability and national security," said Graham.

A steel tariff terrifies Graham. A new Korean war does not?

"Trade wars are not won, only lost," warns Sen. Jeff Flake.

But this is ahistorical nonsense.

The U.S. relied on tariffs to convert from an agricultural economy in 1800 to the mightiest manufacturing power on earth by 1900.

Bismarck's Germany, born in 1871, followed the U.S. example, and swept past free trade Britain before World War I.

Does Senator Flake think Japan rose to post-war preeminence through free trade, as Tokyo kept U.S. products out, while dumping cars, radios, TVs and motorcycles here to kill the industries of the nation that was defending them. Both Nixon and Reagan had to devalue the dollar to counter the predatory trade policies of Japan.

Since Bush I, we have run $12 trillion in trade deficits, and, in the first decade in this century, we lost 55,000 factories and 6,000,000 manufacturing jobs.

Does Flake see no correlation between America's decline, China's rise, and the $4 trillion in trade surpluses Beijing has run up at the expense of his own country?

The hysteria that greeted Trump's idea of a 25 percent tariff on steel and 10 percent tariff on aluminum suggest that restoring this nation's economic independence is going to be a rocky road.

In 2017, the U.S. ran a trade deficit in goods of almost $800 billion, $375 billion of that with China, a trade surplus that easily covered Xi Jinping's entire defense budget.

If we are to turn our $800 billion trade deficit in goods into an $800 billion surplus, and stop the looting of America's industrial base and the gutting of our cities and towns, sacrifices will have to be made.

But if we are not up to it, we will lose our independence, as the countries of the EU have lost theirs.

Specifically, we need to shift taxes off goods produced in the USA, and impose taxes on goods imported into the USA.

As we import nearly $2.5 trillion in goods, a tariff on imported goods, rising gradually to 20 percent, would initially produce $500 billion in revenue.

All that tariff revenue could be used to eliminate and replace all taxes on production inside the USA.

As the price of foreign goods rose, U.S. products would replace foreign-made products. There's nothing in the world that we cannot produce here. And if it can be made in America, it should be made in America.

Consider. Assume a Lexus cost $50,000 in the U.S., and a 20 percent tariff were imposed, raising the price to $60,000.

What would the Japanese producers of Lexus do?

They could accept the loss in sales in the world's greatest market, the USA. They could cut their prices to hold their U.S. market share. Or they could shift production to the United States, building their cars here and keeping their market.

How have EU nations run up endless trade surpluses with America? By imposing a value-added tax, or VAT, on imports from the U.S., while rebating the VAT on exports to the USA. Works just like a tariff.

The principles behind a policy of economic nationalism, to turn our trade deficits, which subtract from GDP, into trade surpluses, which add to GDP, are these:

Production comes before consumption. Who consumes the apples is less important than who owns the orchard. We should depend more upon each other and less upon foreign lands.

We should tax foreign-made goods and use the revenue, dollar for dollar, to cut taxes on domestic production.

The idea is not to keep foreign goods out, but to induce foreign companies to move production here.

We have a strategic asset no one else can match. We control access to the largest richest market on earth, the USA.

And just as states charge higher tuition on out-of state students at their top universities, we should charge a price of admission for foreign producers to get into America's markets.

And -- someone get a hold of Sen. Graham -- it's called a tariff.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: gop; patbuchanan; tariffs; trade; trumpadministration; trumptariffs; trumptrade
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To: Mariner
I look at the currency valuation issue very differently. In fact, I'd make the case that the Chinese yuan is a worthless currency, not an "undervalued" one. Because the Chinese economy is dominated by state controlled industries and there are enormous barriers to private investment, very few companies involved in international trade would accept Chinese yuan as a form of payment if the yuan wasn't convertible to the U.S. dollar at a fixed exchange rate. Companies involved in global commerce want dollars, not yuan.

You'd have to pay me (in dollars) to take Chinese money off your hands.

41 posted on 03/06/2018 9:20:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Alberta's Child

“He was running around campaigning on a promise to protect American industries ... while driving around in a Mercedes-Benz. “

Pure sophistry. Protecting US industries does not mean one must avoid all foreign products. But nice straw man.


42 posted on 03/06/2018 9:21:40 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: ek_hornbeck

I’d have to see some concrete examples of a state-subsidized industry that has ever been able to maintain a competitive advantage over a long enough period of time to really impact the industries of its trading partners.


43 posted on 03/06/2018 9:21:57 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: DesertRhino
Pure sophistry. Protecting US industries does not mean one must avoid all foreign products. But nice straw man.

He can buy and drive whatever the hell he wants, as far as I'm concerned.

My point was that the political optics were awful. Even Hillary Clinton was smart enough to make sure her "Scooby-Doo van" was a Chevrolet.

44 posted on 03/06/2018 9:24:10 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: LibFreeUSA
Does Senator Flake think Japan rose to post-war preeminence through free trade, as Tokyo kept U.S. products out, while dumping cars, radios, TVs and motorcycles here to kill the industries of the nation that was defending them. Both Nixon and Reagan had to devalue the dollar to counter the predatory trade policies of Japan.

The GOPE is afraid tariffs will work FOR THE AMERICAN WORKER and against the CHEAP LABOR EXPRESS. The GOPE fears American citizens who build this country AND they're afraid of their own shadows (for starters).

And one more thing: God Bless Pat Buchanan ...

45 posted on 03/06/2018 9:28:02 AM PST by GOPJ (Trump isn't starting a trade war - he's trying to end the trade war against the USA - Iron Munro)
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To: Alberta's Child

China has been dumping its surplus steel on the world market for years. I’m not sure whether this dumping is due to a direct effort to subsidize at cost/at loss production, or simply a by-product of Chinese firms producing a glut of steel for building projects that wind up dead in the water (many of the latter are state projects, which means that in a sense it is effectively a subsidy of steel production, albeit indirect).


46 posted on 03/06/2018 9:28:12 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Alberta's Child

No, state subsidized is Airbus, where it was formed by a government.


47 posted on 03/06/2018 9:28:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Alberta's Child

“In fact, I’d make the case that the Chinese yuan is a worthless currency, not an “undervalued” one.”

Freepmail me for an address and you can send me all the yuan you can get your hands on.


48 posted on 03/06/2018 9:32:01 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino
Freepmail me for an address and you can send me all the yuan you can get your hands on.

That's exactly my point. I don't get my hands on any yuan at all. I would never bid on a project in China unless I was paid in dollars.

49 posted on 03/06/2018 9:34:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Pat didn’t lose because of his car. He lost becaise he was “too radical” and “too aggressive”. They painted him as a rabid war mongering Goldwater daisy campaign type.


50 posted on 03/06/2018 9:41:52 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino
I don't dispute that -- but the optics were still awful.

He lost because he was Donald Trump without the entertainment value.

51 posted on 03/06/2018 9:46:27 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Kaslin

Tariffs are instruments of economic warfare. Like their conventional warfare counterparts, in an ideal world you’d like to not use them at all. But realities being what it is, you have to selectively use them or threaten to use them.

I can’t take free trade absolutists seriously because they are like the peaceniks who wanted the US to unilaterally disarm.

But trade between nations are in general a good thing, I don’t think it’s a good idea to go full protectionist either, removing too much foreign competition will inevitably cause the domestic companies to get lazy and have less incentive to innovate.


52 posted on 03/06/2018 9:46:39 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: Kaslin

Good discussion!


53 posted on 03/06/2018 9:51:06 AM PST by aquila48
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To: DesertRhino

“Why Is the GOP Terrified of Tariffs?”......

Better revise that question to read, “Why is the GOP Terrified of liberals”?


54 posted on 03/06/2018 9:54:10 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Alberta's Child

“I look at the currency valuation issue very differently.”

Whether it’s an adequate reserve currency is not relevant.

It’s is pegged to the dollar, dictating an exchange rate and exchange value of goods and services.


55 posted on 03/06/2018 9:56:53 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ek_hornbeck

overhead production, regulatory and environmental costs.


56 posted on 03/06/2018 10:09:13 AM PST by rb22982
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To: FreedomNotSafety
1) Why do we tax US production (corporate income tax) and US wages, but not imports (especially since nearly all of our exports are subject to very large VAT taxes among other tariffs). It's the exact opposite of what we should do - it's the same reason hotel taxes are MASSIVE because they are born from non-locals rather than locals even though it discourages visits - it's still better than directly taxing the populace.
2) If we are going to have wage, labor, environmental and other regulatory laws, you should have a tariff on countries that don't have similar ones otherwise you are needlessly hurting US production and still allowing companies to do whatever they want.
57 posted on 03/06/2018 10:15:50 AM PST by rb22982
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To: DoodleDawg
Because it’s a tax increase on most consumers and will probably cost more jobs than it saves or creates. That’s why the GOP is afraid of tariffs.

1) I don't buy that. The fastest our country has grown was during periods of high tariffs and 2) Especially not if you eliminate corporate taxes entirely with the $ you get from imports as there would be a massive incentive for US production at that point.

58 posted on 03/06/2018 10:17:32 AM PST by rb22982
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To: Kaslin

Those who complain are either in the “Globalist Welfare by the USA is a good thing” camp or they have found a way to leverage huge trade deficits to their own personal advantage....


59 posted on 03/06/2018 10:22:29 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: rb22982
1) I don't buy that. The fastest our country has grown was during periods of high tariffs and 2) Especially not if you eliminate corporate taxes entirely with the $ you get from imports as there would be a massive incentive for US production at that point.

1) You don't see any difference at all between the 19th Century and the 21st Century? 2) Nonsense. There would be no such incentive for business to invest trillions into manufacturing that could be made worthless by the repeal of a tariff.

60 posted on 03/06/2018 10:29:26 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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