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New, Light A-10 Candidate? Scaled Composites Design "401 Jet"

Posted on 04/11/2018 4:20:05 PM PDT by gaijin

The new JT15D-5 turbofan-powered "401 Jet" of Burt Rutan's Scaled Composites in Mojave, Calif is a small, stealthy, single-engine jet variation on the very novel, 30 year-old "Ares" light attack jet. Never having entered production, Ares was actually an acronym, standing for Agile Responsive Effective Support:

Experts note that the X401 would have piloted and drone versions, leading to speculation that the pair could work together synergistically in a "loyal wingman" arrangement, possibly with some form of laser or directed energy weapon occupying the weapons bay, partially visible in the landing flare photo below.

A 6-minute YouTube vid explains more about the X401 in the first comment below.


TOPICS: Free Republic; Unclassified; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: a10; aircraft; aviation; cas; dumbidea; fakereplacement; idiocy; stupidityparade; warthog
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To: Darteaus94025

Exactly.

People are missing the point, sort of.

I, too, adore the beefy, low-tech muscle of the A-10.

But this thing is a totally different animal:

I’d wager that even the drones that go in closer (after the command from the sole piloted nearby a/c) would probably stand-off a little and maybe use directed energy, or something small like Spike, or APKWS.

I think the real future lethality is in intensive digital platform teamwork.


41 posted on 04/11/2018 6:51:06 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Pollster1

“I don’t trust the establishment to design something better from scratch.....”

Especially if you want it in this century for less than a billion dollars a copy!!!!!


42 posted on 04/11/2018 6:52:52 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: 5th MEB
Glad to see everyone here LOVES THE WARTHOG! The greatest CAS aircraft ever designed to date.

I don't know. Both the Germans and Americans fielded planes with 75mm cannon. (Compare that to the 57mm big gun on some of the US warships today.)

43 posted on 04/11/2018 7:03:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: gaijin

Nah, doesn’t cut the mustard.

We need two engines and a much more sturdy backbone. (wings etc)

The A-10 was a sturdy two engine overpowered aircraft that could limp home with massive damage.


44 posted on 04/11/2018 7:05:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: NTHockey

The A-10 plans weren’t lost - they were destroyed by order of Congress.


45 posted on 04/11/2018 7:26:05 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SkyDancer

“It looks so fragile that if the pilot sneezed it’ll blow the wings off and eject the pilot.”<——- What he sad.


46 posted on 04/11/2018 7:31:38 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Spktyr; NTHockey
... they were destroyed by order of Congress.

How practical would it be to try to replace A10 parts with improved 3D printed parts?

I understand that even titanium is now available as a feeder for 3D printing.

At least we still have the repair manuals - for now.

47 posted on 04/11/2018 8:41:55 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: NTHockey
Amazing that in this computer age that nobody had the foresight to store the plans

It would seem possible to reverse engineer A10's. If there was a desire to do so by the Air Force. I suspect there isn't.

48 posted on 04/11/2018 9:20:34 PM PDT by llevrok (DACA = Democrats Against Citizen Americans)
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To: Chode

“an AK could bring it down”

Lol!
I was thinking thoughts like that too!


49 posted on 04/11/2018 9:21:47 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: yarddog

I think the real issue is going up against ‘near peer’ adversaries as opposed to terrorists hiding in a cave. And the Russians are armed with Tunguska’s and advanced integrated Air defenses.

There is no way an A-10 would survive against a Russian Air Defence battalion. Be that as it may, stealth and hypersonics and standoff weapons will be the only real answer..


50 posted on 04/11/2018 9:47:49 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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To: texas booster

We needed to replace the wings on the A-10s in the last decade.

It was cheaper for Boeing to design a brand new wing to meet or beat the same original performance requirements than to try to replicate the originals.

The A-10C re-wing and avionics upgrades have extended the life of the aircraft.

3D metal printed parts have some issues - sometimes they weigh more or aren’t as sturdy as regular machined/forged parts. 3D printed parts aren’t that widespread in aviation as of yet.


51 posted on 04/11/2018 11:20:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: shanover

This isn’t an A-10 replacement. It’s to fill the role of the OV-10 for lighter air support missions that don’t need the heavy tank killer A-10. Also, smaller craft like this can be air-transported in kits and taken where they’re needed instead of having to be ferried over.


52 posted on 04/11/2018 11:23:25 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Wildbill22

Actually, the war in Ukraine has shown that something like the A-10 should be reasonably survivable in such an environment - remember, the A-10’s mission is not to be the penetrator aircraft. It’s designed to follow the Wild Weasels in after their SEAD mission has been performed to savage enemy tank formations.


53 posted on 04/11/2018 11:25:46 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: AndyJackson
Apparently, the Air Force is thinking of keeping a limited fleet of updated A-10s in service while acquiring a new surveillance and ground attack aircraft for low-intensity conflicts in uncontested airspace. The new aircraft is expected to be cheap to operate and to bring new capabilities while sparing the A-10 fleet and its aging airframes from burning through their remaining service life.

The Air Force seems to have had a change of heart about the A-10 after discovering in simulations and exercises that it was particularly effective when paired with the F-35. Such pairings are said to have tested out as unusually successful in retrieving downed pilots. Cynically, one might even say that the A-10 has a new mission: helping save the F-35.

54 posted on 04/12/2018 12:35:20 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: SkyDancer

My thoughts too - the A-10 is a hardened air-frame with a Titanium tub for a cockpit - and will fly with half a wing blown off...this looks like it would kill the pilot in hopes of getting off easy as it ran away...


55 posted on 04/12/2018 3:53:47 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Carthego delenda est


56 posted on 04/12/2018 4:05:15 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Rockingham
One has to laugh. So, the F35 is not particularly effective in its ground support mission, but becomes much more effective when paired with the A10 which is a ground attack aircraft unmatched in its effectiveness.

Oh, and which of these two aircraft pick up a downed pilot, the F35? Does the pilot climb onto a wing, or does he hide out in a wheel well? Or does that mission still have to be done by the lowly contemptible not to be seen anywhere near my budget helicopter.

57 posted on 04/12/2018 4:09:53 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: moehoward
"“It looks so fragile that if the pilot sneezed it’ll blow the wings off and eject the pilot.”<——- What he sad."

<——- What he she said

58 posted on 04/12/2018 6:49:52 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

Duly noted.


59 posted on 04/12/2018 7:09:36 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

:)


60 posted on 04/12/2018 7:16:56 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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