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1 posted on 05/30/2018 6:23:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I haven’t seen millionaire and billionaire advocates for Socialism (think Ted Kennedy and John Kerry and Bernie Sanders) and explicitly named Communism (think Jane Fonda) give up their wealth or status or move to a Socialist or Communist nation.

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2 posted on 05/30/2018 6:26:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ads for Chappaquiddick warn of scenes of tobacco use. What about the hazards of drunk driving?)
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3 posted on 05/30/2018 6:27:11 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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It’s really simple:

Capitalism vs socialism is well demonstrated in Boeing B-29 vs Tupolev Tu-4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4

Socialism can’t create it. They copy it.


4 posted on 05/30/2018 6:29:43 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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5 posted on 05/30/2018 6:30:49 AM PDT by Professional
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Capitalims produces everything socialists/communists wish to “redistribute.”

Socialism/communism produces nothing socialists/communists wish to “redistribute.”

Socialism/communism can only exist as a parasite of a capitalist host.

Once a parasitic infection becomes large enough, both the host and parasite die.


6 posted on 05/30/2018 6:31:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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As Dr. Thomas Sowell says, "socialism sounds great. It has always sounded great. And it will probably always continue to sound great. It is only when you go beyond rhetoric, and start looking at hard facts, that socialism turns out to be a big disappointment, if not a disaster."

It never sounded great to me ever since I heard classmates in elementary school say "I want to be in Karl's group so I don't have to work." F### from each according to his ability.

7 posted on 05/30/2018 6:33:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I can't tell if we live in an Erostocracy (rule by sex) or an Eristocracy (rule by strife and chaos))
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Socialism is completely de humanizing.

The give-away? Telling people they are not individuals but rather, ‘part’ of one huge, undifferentiated mass of ‘being’.

Sorry, pal...but I’m convinced that humanity is much better than that. Individuality is the most precious and essential aspect of life on earth without which there’s no point to existence. That’s just me, though


8 posted on 05/30/2018 6:38:54 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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Let's compare capitalism with socialism

Comparing capitalism to socialism is flawed.

The flaw is comparing an economic form to a form of governance.

Capitalism exists in all forms of government including socialism.
The difference is in who owns and controls the capital, the people or the government.

9 posted on 05/30/2018 6:45:09 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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Capitalism has a socialist component. In a free market it is considered like an insurance policy. Sometimes people through no fault of their own, have need of assistance. It makes sense for free marketers to put a portion of their earnings aside for rainy days. It works better to belong to a group policy.

The problem arises when the policy begins to cover those who are unwilling to contribute. This is a problem with the culture not with the concept. Government is too generous and some people are too lazy. Eventually the entire enterprise collapses. Socialism is the decaying of capitalism.

10 posted on 05/30/2018 6:45:31 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Trump has exposed the deep state .)
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Walter Williams is a brilliant man, but he’s speaking into the roar of a hurricane. Only the banning of illegal public employee unions and the nationwide implementation of school choice will change the calculus.


11 posted on 05/30/2018 6:45:57 AM PDT by nickedknack
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"socialism sounds great. It has always sounded great. And it will probably always continue to sound great.

Because so many people think they can get something for nothing.

12 posted on 05/30/2018 6:46:03 AM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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When you make less than average, socialism sounds great.
Once you earn more than average, you'd be a fool if you remain a socialist.

14 posted on 05/30/2018 6:49:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Only the historically ignorant can believe Socialism is a good thing.


17 posted on 05/30/2018 6:56:44 AM PDT by Bayan
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Stefan Molyneux: I HAD A THOUGHT...
https://youtu.be/zDEea9I7U3E


18 posted on 05/30/2018 6:58:08 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Free market capitalism is disfavored by many Americans -- and threatened -- not because of its failure but, ironically, because of its success. Free market capitalism in America has been so successful in eliminating the traditional problems of mankind -- such as disease, pestilence, hunger and gross poverty -- that all other human problems appear both unbearable and inexcusable. The desire by many Americans to eliminate these so-called unbearable and inexcusable problems has led to the call for socialism. That call includes equality of income, sex and race balance, affordable housing and medical care, orderly markets, and many other socialistic ideas.
Socialists like to conflate “society” with “government.” In fact, that idea is very far from new:
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil. . .

were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no [government] . . .

security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. - Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

Since government exists only because of the imperfection of society, cynicism towards society corresponds to naiveté towards government. Cynicism towards society is therefore necessary and sufficient to motivate someone to be a socialist.

For that reason any one whose business is criticism - most certainly including journalists - will tend towards a socialist bent.


19 posted on 05/30/2018 7:25:18 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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The problem is that the vast majority of Americans are socialists to one degree or another. And, to a very large extent, the

Of course, virtually every government employee and virtually every government contractor believes that the function of his bureau either provides an essential public good that markets will not supply or is inherently a natural monopoly that must be socialized. That holds whether the function is national defense, the Post Office, the production and display of great art such as “Piss Christ”, or research into the mating habits of fruit flies under the influence of cocaine.

Once hooked on welfare, and facing astronomical marginal income tax rates if they attempt to earn their own way, recipients of Medicaid, food stamps, Section 8, AFDC, SSDI, etc. have almost insurmountable incentives to favor maintenance of the socialist status quo.

But these two groups are not adequately large or influential to demand government expansion, nor do they provide the resources necessary to fund the government. So, Americans typically receive thirteen to seventeen years of socialist indoctrination in government schools. Continuously reinforced by propaganda in the news and entertainment media, this socialist indoctrination causes the vast majority of Americans to believe all sorts of nonsense about the benevolence and wisdom of government and its public servants.


20 posted on 05/30/2018 7:31:48 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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Bttt.

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23 posted on 05/30/2018 7:43:24 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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This is a debate that's far simpler to resolve than many claim.

Capitalism=West Germany....Socialism=East Germany

Capitalism=South Korea.....Socialism=North Korea

25 posted on 05/30/2018 8:13:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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Global capitalism is a disastrous race to the bottom. We need tariffs and we need them now.


27 posted on 05/30/2018 8:38:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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Capitalism is a business model. It exists everywhere to some extent. Socialism is a form of government. Red China, for example, may have a socialist (aka communist) form of government, but its economy is very capitalist, which should have Karl Marx spinning in his grave.


28 posted on 05/30/2018 8:48:57 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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